CECHA00 not reading games 4.84 DEX

zoiasso said:
Just to give u guys feedback, he actually stolen my drive. The drive wasn't even spinning discs. I replaced the logic board, then is started to sping, i remarried and it's now reading ps3, but the ps2 laser is bad. No way that my drive that was working perfect, came back with 2 totally independent problems.

Again just giving u feedback, at least i learnt a lot in these 2 days. now i have 2 drives not reading ps2, just going to replace lens and try to resolve it.
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I wouldn't offer the option to return...no way no how. In the particular country where I live in Europe, used products on ebay or the local ebay are stated to have no warranty nor a right of return. HOWEVER, the product you receive must be exactly as it is stated in the ad and if it's not working it has to be stated as "for parts only". If it's not working when you receive it and the seller said it was working when it left them then that is where it gets tricky.
Either way I would make it very clear that the purchase is final and no warranty or returns are allowed. The product is sold as is.
The bottom line is that the modern used market is based on trust and nothing more. Back in the day the used market were pawn shops and flea markets where you could inspect the product before putting money down. With ebay, Craigslist, etc it's based on trust. For the most part it works but there are tons of unethical people and just plain lowlife thieves who take advantage of that trust.
 
zoiasso said:
Can you tell me wich cfw are you at? Im trying to solve the black screen on ps2 games. Dont look like a laser problem, cause Im able to copy the iso from dvd to the HDD.
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My PS3 was on D-REX 4.82.2 when I bought it... upgraded to 4.84.2, I can swap LV2 Kernel to CEX or DEX as I please but it stays on DEX.

More specifically, my console is a CECH-2501A (One of the last flash-able models, nearly...)

CECHA00 should read games fine... Hmm, but I'm not quite sure if Blu-Rays and DVDs are read by the same laser eye. I'm assuming they are not so maybe the PS3 that's not reading PS2 games has something to do with that.

Also, when you are testing a PS2 game, do you at least get to the "Playstation 2" logo screen when booting the game? Or nothing

If you see the PS2 logo but it blackscreens after that, it could be that you need a PS2 config to play the game

Just get a config from the database that was linked in this thread, name it .ISO.CONFIG and put it in PS2ISO (must match ISO's name)

If you don't even see PS2 logo, then the ps2netemu is not initializing correctly (and I wouldn't know how to fix/patch that.)

Could be a CEX/DEX error (if you haven't tried both) but it shouldn't be as mine plays PS2 games fine, whether I use CEX/DEX.

But launching PS2 Classics, on the other hand, has never worked in DEX mode...
 
SKEPTiCK said:
If you don't even see PS2 logo
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I dont even reach the ps2 logo. The screen comes black but if i press ps button the control sync and bring the ps2 XMB with ps2 settings, but i think this "HUD" is handled by ps3 hardware. It's hard for me to believe that the ps2 hardware is deffective, cause im having the exact same scenario on a cecha00 and a cecha01. I have another cecha01 comming to repair, I think i will w8 it, try to repair it without jailbreaking and try to copy the system (if ps2 is working properly of course).
 
zoiasso said:
I dont even reach the ps2 logo. The screen comes black but if i press ps button the control sync and bring the ps2 XMB with ps2 settings, but i think this "HUD" is handled by ps3 hardware. It's hard for me to believe that the ps2 hardware is deffective, cause im having the exact same scenario on a cecha00 and a cecha01. I have another cecha01 comming to repair, I think i will w8 it, try to repair it without jailbreaking and try to copy the system (if ps2 is working properly of course).
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Well, now I am thinking... if it is a CECHA00, then it contains some of the OG PS2 hardware, correct? (Only one that does I think.)

Your theory was that the guy stole your BD drive from the console that you sold him and swapped it for another. So I would add to that theory, presuming that CECHA BD drives have some of those original PS2 components shelled inside of that disc drive case? I'm not sure "where" the PS2 hardware is located in the earliest of PS3 models so this is all theory to me as well... Maybe it is a disc drive from a later model of PS3, possibly lacking the real PS2 hardware and that could be the issue, idk...

Or the drive is fine and trying to run "ps2netemu" natively (as CECH-A can do that, I think) but cobra payload is interfering.

You could try to "Force PS2 Netemu" in Rebug Toolbox but I don't know what this would do.
 
SKEPTiCK said:
ou could try to "Force PS2 Netemu" in Rebug Toolbox but I don't know what this would do.
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This way it freezes in the black screen and i need to shutdown

SKEPTiCK said:
Well, now I am thinking... if it is a CECHA00, then it contains some of the OG PS2 hardware, correct? (Only one that does I think.)
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Yes, he have a ps2 processor look the photo.

SKEPTiCK said:
Your theory was that the guy stole your BD drive from the console that you sold him and swapped it for another. So I would add to that theory, presuming that CECHA BD drives have some of those original PS2 components shelled inside of that disc drive case?
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Im thinking something like this, maybe the drive is also married in ps2 mode in a diferent way. Did you ever replace your drive and remarried it? The things both consoles has in coomon:
1 - I jailbreaked both on 4.86 rebug trough bguerville's PS3 Toolset (Supports All Firmware 4.82 - 4.86).
2 - I remarried different BD drive on both.

Honestly, i don't believe it, cause console is detecting ps2 game. When you dont remarry it, you cant even see the disc in XMB. I just want to make sure it's not software related before i start digging into hardware. It's really hard to troubleshoot ps3 hardware while turned on, cause you cant remove cooler etc, otherwhise you will fry some mosfet or processor.

Do you know anyone that would have interest to help me in this on the forum? Some cfw developer or people that repair consoles? It's hard to find on internet similar problem to mine. Maybe is there some tool that can log stuff in real time on cfw
 

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SKEPTiCK said:
Well, now I am thinking... if it is a CECHA00, then it contains some of the OG PS2 hardware, correct? (Only one that does I think.)

Your theory was that the guy stole your BD drive from the console that you sold him and swapped it for another. So I would add to that theory, presuming that CECHA BD drives have some of those original PS2 components shelled inside of that disc drive case? I'm not sure "where" the PS2 hardware is located in the earliest of PS3 models so this is all theory to me as well... Maybe it is a disc drive from a later model of PS3, possibly lacking the real PS2 hardware and that could be the issue, idk...

Or the drive is fine and trying to run "ps2netemu" natively (as CECH-A can do that, I think) but cobra payload is interfering.

You could try to "Force PS2 Netemu" in Rebug Toolbox but I don't know what this would do.
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CECHA/B consoles have PS2 hardware installed in the motherboard (EE+GS), yes, and these consoles use "ps2_emu" to run PS2 games via disc. OP should try running a PS2 Classics game to test ps2_netemu and see if there's no blackscreen, so we can determine that something's off with ps2_emu or it's something else.
 
MegaManX970 said:
OP should try running a PS2 Classics game to test ps2_netemu and see if there's no blackscreen
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Can you tell me what's a ps2 classic? When i just run the disc directly i get the black screen with ps2 menu, and im able to quit back to XMB menu.

When i Force netemu via rebug toolbox, I get a blackscreen with freezed console and need to shut it down on the power switch.

If you have any interest yo help me, let me know, I can make a video so you understand what's going on exactly.
 
1 - Picture with games tested.

2 - Video showing the symptom:

In the video i show in 2 different ways. 1st without ps2netemu 2nd with ps2netemu
 

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zoiasso said:
Can you tell me what's a ps2 classic? When i just run the disc directly i get the black screen with ps2 menu, and im able to quit back to XMB menu.

When i Force netemu via rebug toolbox, I get a blackscreen with freezed console and need to shut it down on the power switch.

If you have any interest yo help me, let me know, I can make a video so you understand what's going on exactly.
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PS2 Classics are the PS2 games that Sony re-released for the PS3 as digital games available in the PS Store (few games were selected for this though, and you install them as PKG files like any digital PS3 game). PS2 Classics has been reverse-engineered already so you can port any PS2 game as a PS2 Classics game to the PS3. Here's a tutorial, so use the ISO dumps you made from your OG PS2 games:
 
As a simple test with the PS2 Disc's Go into REBUG Toolbox and disable Cobra, then try to play the game through the Disc.

For the ISO's you should verify the MD5 Checksum of the game after it has been ripped > ManaGuNz can do this for you. To make sure no files inside the ISO have been corrupted during the ripping of the Disc.

For playing ISO's you need to have Cobra enabled.
 
ddsqa said:
Hey

Have you fixed or problem?
I'm having same issue
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Not yet, i have 2 consoles with the same problem and 2 working right now, i will dig into it soon and try to solve. Can you tell me if you changed anything on your ps3 (hardware or software) before the problem started? Both of my ps3 had hardware changes, one i replaced gpu (RSX), and the other one i replaced the disc drive that was stolen, on both cases i dont know if the ps2 games were working before. May not be a coincidence, maybe the disc drive also has a key with the motherboard for ps2 games the same way as it is for ps3 games (that eid root key that you need to backup)
 
I had issues with PS2 games only, they would go into black screen unless RSX or CELL would have a temperature above 75c during operation. If it goes below 75C - instant freeze(or black screen upon startup) for any PS2 game.

It had no hardware changes as far as I'm aware of, that console was bought from Japan and it had warranty seal intact(nothing inside was changed as well from the looks of it)
 
ddsqa said:
I had issues with PS2 games only, they would go into black screen unless RSX or CELL would have a temperature above 75c during operation. If it goes below 75C - instant freeze(or black screen upon startup) for any PS2 game.

It had no hardware changes as far as I'm aware of, that console was bought from Japan and it had warranty seal intact(nothing inside was changed as well from the looks of it)
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Ok today i was giving a look in my cecha00 that has the same problem, if i find any solution i will reply here, What's making hard to diagnose is the fact that i can't probe it while turned on due to the design of the console.
 
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