PS2 [Discussion] What made the PS2 Such a great Console?

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Amen brother!
My fav was always the Super Nintendo, but Dreamcast runs a close 2nd.

Most people I knew had never even heard of the Dreamcast when it came out.
I think I saw an ad on TV once at about 2am but that was it.

Meanwhile I was happily jamming on Daytona USA, Quake 3 and Unreal tournament etc online.
Or getting drunk as hell and playing Crazy taxi lol.

Good times!
 
Software sells Hardware!

there was plenty of great exclusive games

best third party support in this Console gen the DVD/CD Player, the Backwards compatibility to PS1 Games

(somethings I miss on the current gen (PS4,Xbox One) I like to play some retro games sometimes I missed or want to try again because some classics till this day remain unsurpassed)
 
self_slaughter said:
Amen brother!
My fav was always the Super Nintendo, but Dreamcast runs a close 2nd.

Most people I knew had never even heard of the Dreamcast when it came out.
I think I saw an ad on TV once at about 2am but that was it.

Meanwhile I was happily jamming on Daytona USA, Quake 3 and Unreal tournament etc online.
Or getting drunk as hell and playing Crazy taxi lol.

Good times!
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Never messed with GC. Wanted to but Sega decided to belly up the hardware before I got to it

Crazy story..... If not for 1-1 on Mario bros in Nintendo, sonic would not have existed... Developer spend hours on 1-1 playing "speed Mario" and it actually started out as a" skin replacement" from Mario to sonic. :)

Also, if Nintendo didn't give the finger to Sony's DSP for n64 during development, we wouldn't have ps1 either lol.
 
While I hated the PS2 for being the demise of my beloved Dreamcast it was hard to ignore just how great it actually was. It was the final 128-bit system I bought as I was a GC adopter due to the Resident Evil ReMake and got the Xbox in a bundle deal cheap the PS2 I spent the most time without outside of my Dreamcast which still sees weekly use. ATM playing Gunlord by the NG DEV team which is really a great Super Turrican clone.
 
I'm a gamer, so it doesn't matter what the console is, if I like the game, I'll buy the console that it's on.

With that being said, the PS2 had the overall best exclusives in gaming history. Well, that goes for both PS1 and PS2. If you combine all of the Sony consoles, then compare them to Nintendo, Sega, and Microsoft, Sony wins hands down in terms of overall best exclusive games.

But I'm not saying the other platforms don't have great games. Legend of Zelda is one of my all time favorite game franchises. I'm just saying, Sony tends to pick the greatest games for thier exclusives.

When the PS3 first came out, I originally bought the PS3 just to play Metal Gear Solid 4, which is another one of my all time favorite franchises.

As you can see though, I'm not console dependent lol. I buy different consoles depending on thier exclusives. I don't mean to flex, honestly, I just love gaming.

However, these days I don't really look forward to any games. Because of the rise of micro transactions. It seems publishers care more about nickel and dimeing the players than actually just focusing on making a great game they can be proud of. They sell us an already unfinished game, then tack on micro transactions on top of that.

When I see games care more about micro transactions than actual gameplay, I just don't want to be bothered with that publisher anymore. I can't even remember the last time I bought an EA game. But a lot of publishers and doing this, not just EA.

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Deimos said:
With that being said, the PS2 had the overall best exclusives in gaming history. Well, that goes for both PS1 and PS2. If you combine all of the Sony consoles, then compare them to Nintendo, Sega, and Microsoft, Sony wins hands down in terms of overall best exclusive games.
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In my oppinion, with PS1 and PS2 it was also the fact there was a lot of game companies and publishers that was creating games a bit experimental, it happened naturally because they was at a time when they was experimenting with the different kind of enviroments that can be represented in 3D and trying to implement innovative game mechanics, improving game/dynamic/collision/particles engines etc... but the fact is for some reason all that game companies decided to experiment in a playstation platform
They knew the game was not going to have a big amount of sales, but they did it for artistical reasons
The result is there are a lot of rare/weird PS1 and PS2 games, some was a failure, others was interesting, others was a gem, etc...

Nowadays this is not so usual, the best example of this from the latest published games is death stranding, but is a rarity nowadays

Is like visiting a museum where there are some greek sculptures (that tryes to achieve perfection), and other room with picasso paintings (that was trying to be shocking), or another room for andy warhol (that was like on LSD)
Are different things... but if you like art in general all them are worthy... and by dedicating a bit of time to each genre you are going to have a much better understanding of art in general :)
 
The PS2 was a really special console for me. It was my Gen 6 console of choice! Gen 6 of gaming itself was a really special time, as it represents the last time that game consoles could be purely game consoles. Sure, the PS2 and Xbox could play DVDs and CDs, but at the heart of it all Gen 6 was about the games. And the PS2 had so many amazing games on it, plus being backwards compatible with PS1 games meant that all my old games worked great on it too!

I'll never forget the excitement that I felt whenever I'd go to get a new PS2 game, it was always a great experience. I think it's really cool that even now in adulthood collecting new games for the PS2 as well as messing with homebrew can still give me that same excitement, not many things hold up that well.

I think it says a lot that after all this time I still love to sit down and play some PS2 games. The exclusives like Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, Sly Cooper, and Ape Escape all hold up super well to this day and are still a blast to play through. And even when you're done with all the games you know you love you can rest assured that any decent retro game store will have a good selection of PS2 games for you to look through. It's great that when it comes to playing and collecting games for the PS2 there is almost always no end in sight, just countless games to look forward to!

I love the PS2 and am so happy there are other people who feel the same way and keep this old console alive. Here's hoping some more exciting things come soon!
 
It was when photorealistic graphics that could be presented with an insane array of colour and detail were finally possible. No more dithering or obvious blockiness everywhere, I think that's what made the graphical capabilities so stunning. Just look at the jump between Gran Turismo 2 and 3, for instance!

As well, the console in itself, and this relates to how developers worked with it. It may have been somewhat of a pain as it was more custom than the GC/Xbox's processors to work with, but the way it was pushed was insane in the later years when you consider the launch titles and the later games on the system, it may have been weakest hardware wise, but it lived up to its predecessor, if not managing to surpass it on every level possible while being able to play all of its games and use its hardware pretty much 100%. CD/DVD playback on the rise in the day, made it convenient as an option for that too.

It was affordable, it had so much to offer (regardless of whether you were in the NTSC or PAL market, which the PS1 had started to actually bother making a change with for the better) despite the weaker hardware, it had a huge back catalogue thanks to the backwards compatibility, the DVD playback was a bonus for those into films too, and well... essentially it's the Terminator 2 of consoles, it surpasses the original in a lot of ways for so many, despite it being so difficult to decide which one was actually better :P
 
I grew up with the PS2, it was quite literally the first ever (home) console I ever played on when I was old enough. My dad got a second hand Slim (SCPH-79003) in 2008/09 basically brand new to replace his phat console, many memories of me and him playing on GT3 and GT4 multiplayer and him teaching me the basics.

Fast forward 14 years, I'm in college, had the worst three years of my life (lost my dad in 2020, depression, etc.,) but I always find myself coming back to the PS2 despite the other systems I have from Nintendo to Sega, The PS2 always captures my attention, yeah I *could* play PS, PS2 and PS3 on my Phat PS3 (or on my modded slim, but that's no fun) but it's loud, takes up a bunch of room and let's face it because it's a early phat, Unreliable.

I've never had a PS2 fail on me on the hardware side (apart from connectors on my earlier 30000 series, but 22 year old plastics).

23 years of the PS2!
 
I used to play the PS2 in my childhood games like Sly Cooper and Gex 3 Deep Cover Gecko (used to own it on ps1 took me several attempts to dump it on my HEN ps3 superslim after I lost the Sly Cooper games for ps2) The current one I still have is Sly Cooper and the thievius raccoonus I lost my two other games however it's in a bad condition so idk how I'm gonna dump this game. I decided to get a brand new PS2 after years later and I still have a few PS2 games as I'm nostalgic so my nostalgia is PS1, PS2, and PS3
Gex is also what brought me into buying Warzone 2100 PSX (Despite Pumpkin open sourcing the whole game which explains why Sony never brought it back to PS store)
 
A lot has already been said - and my statement may just be repeating a lot of what was said.

I see some comments about the DreamCast - that was an awesome console and way ahead of its time. Disc swap for burned games and all that. Best graphics versus the competition at the time. Load times also better. But - I guess not enough on the market for DC - Sonic alone couldn't save it.

Nintendo had Mario and Zelda. But that's an interesting thing.....

The PS2 as the successor of the PS1 brought with it a myriad of titles. Looking back, there are titles that were on SNES that ended up on the PS1/2. I'm a fan of the Star Ocean series - an awesome game - and you realize that even Final Fantasy ended up on the Sony consoles instead of Nintendo where they were originally. Marketing or otherwise - Sony ended up with awesome titles. This was also at a turning point in history - right when we were moving towards better graphics, better bandwidth and right before the subscription party that most companies joined. Having some of the better graphics on the market (other than Dreamcast) the gameplay was awesome.

Between the titles, gameplay, hardware and the enormous fun had with friends/rivals on the titles - the PS2 is one of the greats in the history of consoles. Even more so now that I've seen how active things have been here - the PS2 may be generations ago - but it's far from dead.
 
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