PS3 Frankenstein PHAT PS3: CECHA with 40nm RSX

[shnyaps]

Bought a refurbished CECHA00 with 40nm RSX in decent price.
It has one problem though, when I turn it off, it beep 3 times and give me A0901001, only when I turn it off, it hasn't shut down by itself yet.

In about 1/6 chance it can shut down naturally.

should I be worried of it and send the console back to seller who offer paid service, ask him to change capacitor of Cell? Seller said he had swapped all the NEC TOKIN with tantilizers but I haven't been able to open the console to confirm it by myself.

Here's the latest error log, it used to come with A0802120*10. BTW is there a way to correct the timestamp?

Error Log

Spoiler: Error log

01: A0901001 Thu Jan 12 05:59:13 2006
02: A0901001 Wed Jan 11 22:23:47 2006
03: A0901001 Tue Jan 10 20:41:54 2006
04: A0901001 Tue Jan 10 20:41:11 2006
05: A0901001 Tue Jan 10 15:37:31 2006
06: A0901001 Tue Jan 10 09:19:01 2006
07: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 01:00:53 2006
08: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 01:00:52 2006
09: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 01:00:51 2006
10: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 01:00:50 2006
11: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 01:00:50 2006
12: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 01:00:49 2006
13: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 01:00:48 2006
14: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 01:00:47 2006
15: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 01:00:46 2006
16: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 01:00:45 2006
17: A0801001 Tue Jan 10 01:00:44 2006
18: A0901001 Tue Jan 10 00:58:34 2006
19: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 00:53:45 2006
20: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 00:53:44 2006
21: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 00:53:43 2006
22: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 00:53:42 2006
23: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 00:53:41 2006
24: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 00:53:40 2006
25: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 00:53:40 2006
26: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 00:53:39 2006
27: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 00:53:38 2006
28: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 00:53:37 2006
29: A0801001 Tue Jan 10 00:53:36 2006
30: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 00:41:27 2006
31: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 00:41:26 2006
32: FFFFFFFF Tue Jan 10 00:41:25 2006

I have cecha00 with 40nm too. It has tokins, every boot it goes to ylod:1002+2120 in errlog. Ill try to undervolt rsx later. Just for science

 

[A Chinese Man]

I have cecha00 with 40nm too. It has tokins, every boot it goes to ylod:1002+2120 in errlog

I think 1002 means it's RSX Tokin failure? 1001 could mean more than just tokin failure though.

How did u get that 40nm CECHA00? I'm curious

 

[shnyaps]

I think 1002 means it's RSX Tokin failure? 1001 could mean more than just tokin failure though.

How did u get that 40nm CECHA00? I'm curious

I bought 2 random cecha00 from japan. One had glod, after hdmi reset it is 40nm fully working cecha00 for $35. Second one has ylod. After disassembly I found 40 sticker on usb. I checked syscon logs. It looks like rsx tokins swap will fix it

 

[luvbuckets]

Tell him to check fuses, especially F6302. If fuse is blown, check the mlcc caps in that surrounding area.

 

[A Chinese Man]

Tell him to check fuses, especially F6302. If fuse is blown, check the mlcc caps in that surrounding area.

Could you elaborate why I should pay attention to them?

And one thing I found interesting is that it seems like if I turn the console off when Cell is relatively hot (Around 72C), it tends to shut down with no problem.

 

[luvbuckets]

1001 can be nothing more than improper shutdown . It's the 10x 2120 codes that im worried about. When I see those, it's usually a blown fuse (f6302) and the mlcc caps on top of board near rsx. Fuses are an easy thing to check. They'll also help you narrow down the issue. If you're lucky it's a blown fuse...

 

[A Chinese Man]

Another question is that could I just leave the 40nm console fan control as syscon? Or maybe I can raise the bar of webman mod a little higher (70C instead of 68C for example)

I tested the console with TLoU, fan kicks in when Cell hit 72 degree or so, the highest Cell got was 75 degree, and the fan speed holds at 29~30%

 

[shnyaps]

I bought 2 random cecha00 from japan. One had glod, after hdmi reset it is 40nm fully working cecha00 for $35. Second one has ylod. After disassembly I found 40 sticker on usb. I checked syscon logs. It looks like rsx tokins swap will fix it

I can't undervolt swapped 40nm rsx. Even with 0.95V I get 3003 or 3004 error((( is it a feature of new syscon controller?

 

[A Chinese Man]

Another question is that could I just leave the 40nm console fan control as syscon? Or maybe I can raise the bar of webman mod a little higher (70C instead of 68C for example)

I tested the console with TLoU, fan kicks in when Cell hit 72 degree or so, the highest Cell got was 75 degree, and the fan speed holds at 29~30%

Should I worry about Cell degree/heat/thermal or just leave it handled by syscon?

 

[luvbuckets]

I must have missed the part where you mentioned this console turns on. It's probably not a fuse. You can swap tokens if you want, I doubt it will fix your issue. May want to try a different hard drive and bluray drive. Make sure replacement Blu-ray drive is properly married with root key. I usually let syscon handle the fan curve. You don't need to worry about the cell as much, IBM did a good job making that thing.

 

[A Chinese Man]

You can swap tokens if you want, I doubt it will fix your issue

Me too

I have tried to install different 1TB hard drive and the result is same. Blu-ray drive....I have no idea, current one is working with no issue though.

Thanks I'll just leave syscon handle it.


BTW, I mentioned "one thing I found interesting is that it seems like if I turn the console off when Cell is relatively hot (Around 72C), it tends to shut down with no problem."
But I haven't tested if it's true.

 

[luvbuckets]

I would swap the Blu-ray drive anyways. It doesn't matter if it "seems" to be working properly. It's a quick and easy thing to try.

 

[A Chinese Man]

Me too

I have tried to install different 1TB hard drive and the result is same. Blu-ray drive....I have no idea, current one is working with no issue though.

Thanks I'll just leave syscon handle it.


BTW, I mentioned "one thing I found interesting is that it seems like if I turn the console off when Cell is relatively hot (Around 72C), it tends to shut down with no problem."
But I haven't tested if it's true.

I test it, if I turn the console off when CELL is hotter than 70C, it wont beep during the shutdown.
Since CELL easily climbs up to 75C before fan speed kicks in (in XMB idle), I guess I'll just stick to the syscon then.

Usually fan speed would stay at 28% with CELL being 72C, RSX is mid-50C level.

 

[shnyaps]

I test it, if I turn the console off when CELL is hotter than 70C, it wont beep during the shutdown.
Since CELL easily climbs up to 75C before fan speed kicks in (in XMB idle), I guess I'll just stick to the syscon then.

Usually fan speed would stay at 28% with CELL being 72C, RSX is mid-50C level.

Did you undervolt ps3? After undervolting I have the same problem((( 1001 error on shutdown. Ill try to increase cell voltage by one step

 

[A Chinese Man]

Did you undervolt ps3? After undervolting I have the same problem((( 1001 error on shutdown. Ill try to increase cell voltage by one step

I dunno, maybe the seller did.....

Did you undervolt ps3? After undervolting I have the same problem((( 1001 error on shutdown. Ill try to increase cell voltage by one step

will it be properly shutdown if the cell temp is higher enough like I said?

 

[Yugonibblit]

Just a thought, power button or BD Power sensor when incerting a disc?

 

[shnyaps]

I dunno, maybe the seller did.....


will it be properly shutdown if the cell temp is higher enough like I said?

I tried to use default voltage - no success. Checked: new hdd, new psu, no bd, Ill try to swap power btn daughter board

 

[A Chinese Man]

I test it, if I turn the console off when CELL is hotter than 70C, it wont beep during the shutdown.
Since CELL easily climbs up to 75C before fan speed kicks in (in XMB idle), I guess I'll just stick to the syscon then.

Usually fan speed would stay at 28% with CELL being 72C, RSX is mid-50C level.

Here's one problem, let's say if the problem can be solved with better capacitors swapped in CELL side. And if I just keep using the console as it is for now (lower CELL temp shutdown leads to A0901001), will it be harmful to CELL?

 

[Joe Robertson]

Bought a refurbished CECHA00 with 40nm RSX in decent price.
It has one problem though, when I turn it off, it beep 3 times and give me A0901001, only when I turn it off, it hasn't shut down by itself yet.

In about 1/6 chance it can shut down naturally.

should I be worried of it and send the console back to seller who offer paid service, ask him to change capacitor of Cell? Seller said he had swapped all the NEC TOKIN with tantilizers but I haven't been able to open the console to confirm it by myself.

Here's the latest error log, it used to come with A0802120*10. BTW is there a way to correct the timestamp?

Error Log

Spoiler: Error log

01: A0901001 Thu Jan 12 05:59:13 2006
02: A0901001 Wed Jan 11 22:23:47 2006
03: A0901001 Tue Jan 10 20:41:54 2006
04: A0901001 Tue Jan 10 20:41:11 2006
05: A0901001 Tue Jan 10 15:37:31 2006
06: A0901001 Tue Jan 10 09:19:01 2006
07: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 01:00:53 2006
08: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 01:00:52 2006
09: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 01:00:51 2006
10: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 01:00:50 2006
11: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 01:00:50 2006
12: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 01:00:49 2006
13: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 01:00:48 2006
14: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 01:00:47 2006
15: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 01:00:46 2006
16: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 01:00:45 2006
17: A0801001 Tue Jan 10 01:00:44 2006
18: A0901001 Tue Jan 10 00:58:34 2006
19: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 00:53:45 2006
20: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 00:53:44 2006
21: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 00:53:43 2006
22: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 00:53:42 2006
23: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 00:53:41 2006
24: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 00:53:40 2006
25: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 00:53:40 2006
26: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 00:53:39 2006
27: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 00:53:38 2006
28: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 00:53:37 2006
29: A0801001 Tue Jan 10 00:53:36 2006
30: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 00:41:27 2006
31: A0802120 Tue Jan 10 00:41:26 2006
32: FFFFFFFF Tue Jan 10 00:41:25 2006

I've encountered A0901001 a bunch when using a DEX kernel + webman when shutting down during a strenuous game on a console with healthy tokins, its unlikely yours is running a DEX kernel but just putting it out there. It may be another software gremlin but this is wishful thinking and likely not the issue

If you're certain the tokins have been properly replaced then it could be physical damage to the CELL's BGA, maybe try applying pressure to the CELL while shutting the console off? It very well could've been knocked around in shipping or had an eraser mod done by the seller to cover up the console potentially needing a delid. The intermittent'ness of this issue makes me think BGA but you should try the general troubleshooting steps and probably try putting in a new hard drive before fully opening the console to completely rule out software and HDD gremlins

 

[A Chinese Man]

I've encountered A0901001 a bunch when using a DEX kernel + webman when shutting down during a strenuous game on a console with healthy tokins, its unlikely yours is running a DEX kernel but just putting it out there. It may be another software gremlin but this is wishful thinking and likely not the issue

If you're certain the tokins have been properly replaced then it could be physical damage to the CELL's BGA, maybe try applying pressure to the CELL while shutting the console off? It very well could've been knocked around in shipping or had an eraser mod done by the seller to cover up the console potentially needing a delid. The intermittent'ness of this issue makes me think BGA but you should try the general troubleshooting steps and probably try putting in a new hard drive before fully opening the console to completely rule out software and HDD gremlins

Hopefully seller lied to me and didn't replace the Tokin ; (
I probably won't open it by myself.

I've encountered A0901001 a bunch when using a DEX kernel + webman when shutting down during a strenuous game on a console with healthy tokins, its unlikely yours is running a DEX kernel but just putting it out there. It may be another software gremlin but this is wishful thinking and likely not the issue

If you're certain the tokins have been properly replaced then it could be physical damage to the CELL's BGA, maybe try applying pressure to the CELL while shutting the console off? It very well could've been knocked around in shipping or had an eraser mod done by the seller to cover up the console potentially needing a delid. The intermittent'ness of this issue makes me think BGA but you should try the general troubleshooting steps and probably try putting in a new hard drive before fully opening the console to completely rule out software and HDD gremlins

I shared more info in the following reply, it is related to the temp of CELL. Not intermittent'ness