PS5 Got a PS5?

Do you have a PS5 yet?

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 20.0%

  • No (all sold out)

    Votes: 7 20.0%

  • No (don't care)

    Votes: 21 60.0%
  • Total voters
    35
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WizKid

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Self explanatory.

Rumors are that Best Buy is going to have a drop tomorrow at 8 AM CT, and Walmart (depending on location) is getting a drop next Monday.
 
I vote for don't care because I cannot buy a console which:
  • looks ugly
  • doesn't allow me to backup my saves and other content (even at least in crippled form like on PS4).
  • have soldered and married to motherboard extremely intensively used SSD
  • doesn't allow me to change internal mass storage device
  • doesn't have next gen titles
  • have games with prices 3 times larger than before
  • cost around one month salary
  • isn't backward compatible with PS3, PS2 and PSX; and PS4 is based on whitelisting
This is ridiculous anti-consumer piece of shit for me.
 
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Yeah, similar reasons here. I'm waiting for Slim or other rework.
Not going to buy that oversided white web router that would look just ugly in my room.
Soldered SSD is the biggest NO-NO for me, I'm not trusting it at all, waiting for failure rate reports in next year or two.
 
Berion said:
doesn't have next gen titles
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Lol at that one, i understand what you mean though, the technologies shown in the unreal engine 5 demo was outstanding, specially how the geometry is generated "dinamically", it was lacking a good management of hardware raytracing though... i mean... the goal of the new raytracing technologies is to unload the main CPU from the traytracing tasks, but in the unreal engine 5 demo the raytracing was made by the CPU, the result visually was great, but thats not the way to do it in 2020 :D
Im sure they will have a better raytracing support for release date though, anyway, my point is the unreal engine 5 is the first time ive seen something really "next gen" (and im still a bit shocked about the geometry stuff, looks like the best idea ever, whoever that imagined that is a genious)

I have the feeling all the games engines from all the game companies are going to evolve in the same direction than the unreal engine 5 with the geometry
In some way is not a decission of the games companies, is whatever AMD and Nvidia decides to do
And this time it looks AMD, the people from unreal engine, and sony (in that order of importance) was working together in designing all this technologies and deploying them in the PS5 prototypes, so is good news for the PS5 owners, if there is something we can be sure is the unreal engine 5 is going to run awesomelly in the PS5, and is really a "next gen" game engine that does some things that are technically awesome

Sadly we will have to wait some time to see a game using an engine like unreal 5 (or similar) squeezing the PS5 features, but the PS5 have lot of potential
Some days ago i did read a new from a game developer that was saing "in 10 years the videogames are going to be able to generate graphics 100% realistics"
Personally... i think is going to happen sooner :)

This visual fidelity depends a lot of the game genre though, if what you want to represent in screen are "toys" like in the ratchet and clank games, then yeah... looks completly real
For other games genres where there are humans and close camera planes of his face, hands, etc... achiving realism is more challenging
The actual racing games looks awesome though (in my opponion better definition than real world, they needs to work in that to add some garbage, distortions, blurry, smooths, etc...)

But anyway... they are very close to achieve 100% realism. I think in it as the ending of an story that started with PONG game, lol (it was the first time someone imagined to generate some visual graphics output for a videogame)
 
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Berion said:
This is ridiculous anti-consumer piece of shit for me.
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Days of Modchips, jailbreaks and exploits are pretty much gone. You don't even buy consoles anymore, you are only leased the hardware with license terms that you have to abide by.

But its not just consoles, its happening with all kind of stuff. Smartphones, DTH boxes, Modems & Routers, Internet etc etc.

My Smartphone with Android comes with pre-installed Apps (i cannot uninstall) that feeds me Ads whether i like it or not. Not to mention that it collects all my data.

My DTH box (Cable TV) is locked & doesn't do even the most basic functions without paying the monthly subscription which keeps getting higher & higher every year.

Most i hate is my ISP and Router. I don't know about Poland but here in India with dictator Govt has banned all kind of stuff. File sharing sites, torrents, Porn sites, Chinese eCommerce sites like Aliexpress, all kind of "politically incorrect" content etc etc. Of course ISP enforces internet restrictions with total loyalty to government. Now ISP has also started blocking VPNs.
 
Regarding PS5, its still not launched in India. However, imported units are being sold for as high as $1000 by some merchants.
 
What, im the only vote that has? 9.1%? Im disappointed :eek::D

Of course, i could vote "i dont care", there are a few things that tick me off,and ill have to live with the early adpoters regret, the soldered SSD, the non-expandible M.2 "as for now", the slightly noisier Nidec Fans,and a couple of OS bugs here and there, and of course Cross-Gen Games,but overall is a solid machine for PS4 Backwards Compatibility,which was my first plan before i got it, and Demon´s Souls, but coming from the PS4 Pro, having a locked 60 this time around is a treat

Word of honesty: If you dont care about framerates, and other jazz and you own a PS4 Pro, just keep it, until Sony drops support, i would kept my Pro,if i knew the difference wouldnt be so drastic, but if you come from a Base PS4, the chance is more than welcome, of course PS5 will have its own "exclusives" like R&C and Gran Turismo 7 which i look forward too,but GT7 got a ETA unknown,which is nothing new being Polyphony, so for Cross-Gen,just stick with your PS4
 
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I really don't care really, there're no games that I like right now, or coming in the next years, not even on PS5. If I had to buy a PS5, would be only to play TLOU online (I didn't buy a PS4 and I won't). Maybe in the next months if I don't spend money in other things (most likely).

@Berion

There's not news about the SSD selector like in 12GB SSs? About emulation, I don't give a giraffe ^^ I'd put my BC PS3 next to the PS5 lol. It's understandable that you aren't getting PSX/PS2/PS3 emulation, the only one complicated from those is the PS3, and you know how japaneses are, honor and shame go in different ways. The PS4 emulation was a promise and the battle horse against MS, so there's no point in mention it.

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Days of Modchips, jailbreaks and exploits are pretty much gone. You don't even buy consoles anymore, you are only leased the hardware with license terms that you have to abide by.

But its not just consoles, its happening with all kind of stuff. Smartphones, DTH boxes, Modems & Routers, Internet etc etc.

My Smartphone with Android comes with pre-installed Apps (i cannot uninstall) that feeds me Ads whether i like it or not. Not to mention that it collects all my data.

My DTH box (Cable TV) is locked & doesn't do even the most basic functions without paying the monthly subscription which keeps getting higher & higher every year.

Most i hate is my ISP and Router. I don't know about Poland but here in India with dictator Govt has banned all kind of stuff. File sharing sites, torrents, Porn sites, Chinese eCommerce sites like Aliexpress, all kind of "politically incorrect" content etc etc. Of course ISP enforces internet restrictions with total loyalty to government. Now ISP has also started blocking VPNs.
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Nah man, not the porn.
 
@ElGris Currently this M.2 slot is ghost slot (no support on firmware side) so no one knows. But I believe this SSD will stay in use after adding user SSD (at least for firmware partitions).

They promised me full backward compatible so they again broke the promise (later they removed that information, just like removed later information about full backward compatible with all PS4 games). I understand that PS3 is tough b*ch to emulate on such poor hardware but PSX and PS2 should be obvious (if not from disc, it should be possible to use my bought PSX games on PS3 and PSP from their e-store). But instead they showed me middle finger.

@sandungas Yeah, exactly my point. No game looks like next gen (quick ports of current developing for old gens). We will wait for them a little longer and for sure PS5 will have beautiful games. But I don't see any games worth to buy on PS5 for now (ok, maybe, just maybe Demon's Souls if I close one eye, but I don't like souls-agressive-autosave-games ;p). Nearest "next gen" premiere is Ratchet & Autism: Rift Apart for which I'm waiting of course.

@snkplkn Sorry to hear that. In Poland there is no censorship or site filtering but of course the rest problems of temporary services touching us too. That's why I'm not interested in SmartTV or unhacked consoles because restrictions are ridiculous and extremely annoying.
 
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Do You believe they testing all games from all regions with all editions on all version patches with and without specified DLCs, from beginning to the end, from fast straight playthrough to the completonist one? That's is impossible task for entire planet population. ;) So for sure there is a lot more games which not only doesn't run, but glitching somewhere or even stuck.

However, I'm quite fine with that, backward compatible via emulation and or virtualising cannot reach 100%. My main issue is are old discs and purchases of PSX and PS2. That's could be totally doable as PS4 for some titles emulating PS2 and PSP hiding this fact from the user and everything is fine (maybe except "premiere" version of Patapons which was broken and fixed later). So instead of disguising emulator as PS4 game executable and distributing it as native title, would be better to put emulator or emulators in firmware with hacks if needed (for sure the those for trophies and textures pack) or just downloading them on demand from their network when user put specific game to drive. But instead they decided to allow developers to publishing old games as new ones under "Remaster" brand (do not mislead with remakes or real remasters which are rewritten games for target platform). So, that makes me angry.

Everything what they doing is cheap, low quality, not finished, anti-consumer, remote controlling etc. Even fantastic idea of PlayStation Classic they outsourced and screwed which even hacked this console is a joke.


Sorry for the rant but I cannot stand how players excusing Sony (Microsoft, Nintendo, Apple, Google, Adobe, whatever) and they going further and further from year to year of been dick.
 
WizKid said:


From [URL='https://www.playstation.com/en-us/support/games/ps5-backward-compatibility-games/']https://www.playstation.com/en-us/support/games/ps5-backward-compatibility-games[/URL], the only games not compatible are:


That's a pretty damn small list.
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P.T Silent Hills was also backlisted,and Demos and Trial Versions are also Blacklisted, but Compatible since there is no system limitations aside for OS blacklist, every game from every region is compatible,plus PS2 Classics
 
ElGris said:
I really don't care really, there're no games that I like right now, or coming in the next years, not even on PS5. If I had to buy a PS5, would be only to play TLOU online (I didn't buy a PS4 and I won't). Maybe in the next months if I don't spend money in other things (most likely).
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@ElGris

Its a good time to buy PS4, actually the best time.....but for the right price. I don't know what's your country but in US & Europe, people have frenzy to buy Next Gen consoles so they sell old pretty cheap. So try to get your hand on Pro if you can find a 5.05 or below in good working condition. If you get it for $200 or less, than its a good deal.

PS5 is basically a super PS4 Pro as of now. The hardware of PS5 is yet to be utilized to its best potential and you won't see real next Gen games on PS5 for next 2 years at least.
 
Berion said:
Sorry for the rant but I cannot stand how players excusing Sony (Microsoft, Nintendo, Apple, Google, Adobe, whatever) and they going further and further from year to year of been dick.
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What we are dealing is Market monopolies. Apple is not a real problem because you can chose to reject it. I mean there are many smartphone companies and computer hardware manufacturers you can choose from. If people wanna buy iphone & other overhyped & overpriced Apple crap, then its their bad choice. I would never buy piece of crap Apple.

Google is becoming big problem. I am not a big tech knowledgeable guy. But i know that Google has created a monopoly on many things. First of all their search engine has gone to shit & basically become a pay service for big web domains who pay to be on top. Google's pay model for services like Android, Youtube & other things is also anti-consumer. Here in my country India, Google also helps censor anti-government news stories and helps promotion of pro Govt stuff. This i think is the most destructive 1984 type thing. facebook is in the same league.


Now coming to consoles. Consumers are on the mercy of two manufacturers ONLY. Nintendo is just a small company on global picture. Microsoft and Sony have full liberty to dictate the rules. This is our hardware and this is how you can use it. What it runs, how it runs & how much revenue has to be extorted from consumers - they decide. And why blame the console manufacturers only? See the Game companies like Electronic Arts and what they are doing.

Overall, what we are seeing is conclusion and culmination of technology usage in its perverse anti-consumer, anti-innovation, anti-creative and anti-development form.
 
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@ElGrisPS5 is basically a super PS4 Pro as of now. The hardware of PS5 is yet to be utilized to its best potential and you won't see real next Gen games on PS5 for next 2 years at least.
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This is the main reason why I'm not getting a cheap made and awful console like the PS4. Even the DS4 is ugly. At least with PS5 I can play all the PS4 games that didn't play (not that I die to play anything of the game library). I already played what I wanted, RER3 and TLOU2, both sucked, both killed the last hype I had for any new game, and what can I say? Games suck nowadays.

P/S: This could be my first game on PS5, this is something different and looks cool ^^

 
Yeah, the PS4 PRO is something intergenerational, doesnt makes much sense to buy a new PS4 PRO nowadays
For the consumers that wants to buy a new sony console but doesnt wants to pay the plus for the "premiun models" there are only 2 options that makes sense, the PS5 digital or the PS4 slim
 
Btw, now that you are lubbing me, i have other prophecy to share :D

PSP3 using a custom AMD APU with 3W TDP in xmas 2023
 
You mean a handheld console? That i can tell is not gonna happen. The Smartphone gaming market is extensively developed. Sony has no chance to carve into Mobile gaming. Everybody has handheld smartphones and most smartphones are nowadays cheap with multicore CPUs, decent graphics capability, RAM & storage. Every smartphone is capable for gaming. Sony would never try to inject a dedicated handheld console in this market to compete against Smartphones.
 
There is a nintendo switch portable and is selling well

For the game companies it would be a dream to be able to compile the game in the same x86-64 processor architecture for PS5 and PSP3
This would assure sony that the PSP3 is compatible with all the multiplatform games... so more game companies will be motivated to publish his games for PSP3 because is more "dev friendly" than the nintendoes switch portable


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What killed the PS Vita was the low support from multiplatform game companies, this is a consequence of his processor arquitecture
 
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