PS3 Has Sony done anything to make the graphics worse in recent years?

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Hi. I hadn't played a PS3 since about 2008. I recently purchased two, fat and slim, and in both i noticed that the graphics look bad, regardless of the game. I remembered the graphics being much cleaner.
In the past as now i used the HDMI cable, today with a full HD TV and in the past with an HD ready.
Ther's almost no vsync and for sure no anti aliasing. Even the xmb menu seems without antialiasing.

For example far cry 2, i'm sure it had vsync in the past, it's almost unplayable now.
Dirt rally, rainbow six, motorstorm, midnight club, have a total lack of antialiasing. In addition to this, it is like some textures, for example the cars dashboard or the symbols, were loaded at a lower resolution.

I've found little about online, but there are people who complain the same thing.

It's like Sony took away anti-aliasing and vsync from the console. I noticed this on both consoles i purchased, fat and slim.
Is it possible that Sony has removed some graphic improvements for some absurd reason?
 
Majority of games will looks worse than on Your native 720p because not much are displaying in 1080p, most of them are 720p or a little higher, so they are upscalling by TV.

Sony didn't remove anything like that, or else those games would stop working correctly.

However, Your TV doing some post processing on each fame I believe. Turn all stupid shit off. ;)
 
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mimi said:
turn off tv processing. First of all sharpening to 0.
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Already done, tried both HDMI inputs, the sharpening to 0 is excessively blurry, i leave it at the minimum acceptable which is 15. It doesn't change, the antialiasing continues to be missing.
 
Berion said:
Majority of games will looks worse than on Your native 720p because not much are displaying in 1080p, most of them are 720p or a little higher, so they are upscalling by TV.

Sony didn't remove anything like that, or else those games would stop working correctly.

However, Your TV doing some post processing on each fame I believe. Turn all stupid shit off. ;)
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Already done, tried both HDMI inputs, put tv in game mode and deactivated all processes, nothing changes, antialiasing continues to be missing. Midnight club is 1080p and yet it has the same problems of 720p games. I could try it on another TV but i don't think is the upscaling. Here the problem is not a blurry image, but an image that has no antialiasing, vsync and which appears to be loaded at low internal resolution.
 
GamerAddict said:
What tv are you using? Most likely it sucks
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In the past it was a Samsung HD Ready i don't remember the model. Today is a Samsung ue32f5000. I also used it with the PC as a monitor but i didn't have any problems. Now i want to try the PS3 on an LG 4K. I'll tell you the result.

PS: How do i take a screenshot while playing?
 
Nator said:
In the past it was a Samsung HD Ready i don't remember the model. Today is a Samsung ue32f5000. I also used it with the PC as a monitor but i didn't have any problems. Now i want to try the PS3 on an LG 4K. I'll tell you the result.

PS: How do i take a screenshot while playing?
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You have to use a plugin like webMAN as there is no official screenshot for the system.
 
Nator said:
In the past it was a Samsung HD Ready i don't remember the model. Today is a Samsung ue32f5000. I also used it with the PC as a monitor but i didn't have any problems. Now i want to try the PS3 on an LG 4K. I'll tell you the result.

PS: How do i take a screenshot while playing?
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Taking a screenshot will save the raw 720p ps3 image. Doesn't reflect how it looks upscaled on your tv.

Let's clear something, some ps3 games look blurry because of the ps3 antialising.

Ps3 games that run at native 720p, witth (QAA) antialising will look slightly soft. Other than that, games that used other AA or no AA look very nice and clear. Games like uncharted, gta v, last of us...

Several years ago, i searched this topic thoroughly because i experience thr same thing as you just have. Usually what makes ps3 look so bad compared to Xbox 360 is the lack of a hardware upscaler, so you would have to depend onyour tvs upscaling. Most tvs have shitty upscaling, especially cheap brands like vizio, tcl oder low end models from other brands like lg and Samsung. Good upscaling will upscale without rendering the image blurry as if someone wiped Vaseline on the screen. A good upscaler on a tv, will upscale a 720p ps3 output and make it look similar to dlss performance or fsr, it won't look blurry, but different than native in a good way, i often admired this type of upscaled graphics and like it more than native resolution. It even fixes aliasing soemtimes. I can't explain it, you have to experience it with your own eyes. The second thing that makes the picture ugly, is digital processing, like sharpness and using dynamic image mode. Sharpness is usually high by default on most brands.

Here's how to get a good image from ps3.

Never play on a pc monitor. No matter how expensive it is, it was designed to run at native resolution. Upscaling there is basic and needed mostly when someone is installing windows or had issues with gpu drivers.

Avoid cheap tvs, the only exception is "Sony".

Don't use gimmic options like dynamic mode and options that enhance colors or black levels and learn how to calibrate your tv or at least get the best out of it.

Sharpness is different from tv to another, you have to find out what level is zero sharoness, it's usually 0. Cheap brands have minis sharpness and could get very confusing trying to find out which value is "no sharpness" for example when value gets lower than 20 or 10 etc... Image starts getting very blurry. You have to test this on native resolution. There are sharpness test patterns that can help.

Finding an old high end sony 1080p tv from ~2011~2014~ .will be the best way to experience ps3. Or get a high end/mid high end 4k tv, i prefer Sony, LG, Samsung. Believe me, it makes a big big difference. It's the same way for ps4 on 4k tv, most 4k tvs will make it look blurry, soft compared to native 1080p tv. But a very good 4k tv, will upscale it and make it look even better than it looked on a native 1080p tv. Ehat i am talking about cannot be photographed by camera or explained, you have to see it with your eyes. I have been through dozens of tvs, and experimented alot, sony tvs are best when it comes to displaying an image lower than native resolution. They're best at upscaling.
 
Nator said:
Nothing has changed with the LG television, the jagged edges are slightly less visible. Vsync is missing.
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Which game are you experiencing tearing in? Some ps3 games didn't have vsync. You can google the game for example " saints row 3 digital foundry" and read their articles on eurogamer website. They analyse the graphics and are very interesting to read.

You can share the game's title and i will help you find out if it had vsync or not
 
Sorry for spamming the thread. Also sitting very close to the tv, especially if it's large, will make it look ugly, this happens even if it it's a ps5 game. For 32 inch tv, i prefer to sit at 1.3 to 1.5 meters ( depending on game) some games are bad looking and blurry no matter what you olay on like cod ghost or red dead redemption, gta 4. for 40 inch i prefer to sit 2 meters away.
 
It is probably the hardware of whatever TV you are using if it is from this newest generation.

Honestly, sometimes feels like it is the game to blame (like the GTA Definitive Trilogy on PS4 has horrible HDMI ghosting when driving fast no matter what you do) but that is just an example of when the console is performing alot to pull all of the data for every frame, spawning objects, etc. so maybe it is the over-consumption or incorrect handling of the virtual memory that makes games behave in such manner.

I have played PS3 on SONY CRT, Panasonic CRT, FullHD Hisense flat-screen and most recently 4K+HDR "SmartTV"

PS4 & PS5 I've played only on the flat-screen and newest generation.

The way I feel it usually is not the console, PS3 was excellent graphically and I never had any issues with any of the games I've played except console freezes on very large ones like Bethesda titles

And actually PS5 stepped up on better handle of graphics quite a bit, as it is able to run games that were from PS4 generation which are so oversized and so chock-full of resources that it basically forces the PS4 to bake itself

I have all gens of PS and can say you'll be skipping some really great titles avoiding PS4 but also avoiding a console that is probably more likely to bake itself to a crisp than PS5.
 
Don't understand all the complaints. I ran my FAT PS3 on Dell IPS monitor S2240 Full HD and graphics were good (TLOU, Uncharted 2, 3 , COD MW 2, 3 , RE 5 etc)

Recently played RE4 remake and Deliver us Mars on FAT PS4 and graphics are satisfactory & gameplay/performance is also good. Remember that this is 10 years old hardware & still able to give results.

PC hardware and modern Graphics card are obsolete pretty quickly. And thanks to AI hype and Crypto scams, the Graphics card still costing fortune and NVIDIA milking every cents on their hardware. And they still can't make decent hardware because consumers are ready to buy shit.

PS5 , graphics i con't comment on. But a new PS5 (new slim version coming soon with attachable/removable BD drive) which comes with a nice controller & runs past PS4 titles (pretty cheap in after market) with good performance is far better than $400 graphics card alone that will obsolete in next 4-5 years, even sooner.
 
GamerAddict said:
Which game are you experiencing tearing in? Some ps3 games didn't have vsync. You can google the game for example " saints row 3 digital foundry" and read their articles on eurogamer website. They analyse the graphics and are very interesting to read.

You can share the game's title and i will help you find out if it had vsync or not
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Thank you for the explanation. The worst game i experience tearing in is Far Cry 2. The others have it too but not so bad, like Colin Dirt Rally, Motorstorm, Rainbows Six Vegas 2 and Midnight Club, but you don't see it much. I'm talking about physical games on a slim pse with cfw.
 
SKEPTiCK said:
It is probably the hardware of whatever TV you are using if it is from this newest generation.

Honestly, sometimes feels like it is the game to blame (like the GTA Definitive Trilogy on PS4 has horrible HDMI ghosting when driving fast no matter what you do) but that is just an example of when the console is performing alot to pull all of the data for every frame, spawning objects, etc. so maybe it is the over-consumption or incorrect handling of the virtual memory that makes games behave in such manner.

I have played PS3 on SONY CRT, Panasonic CRT, FullHD Hisense flat-screen and most recently 4K+HDR "SmartTV"

PS4 & PS5 I've played only on the flat-screen and newest generation.

The way I feel it usually is not the console, PS3 was excellent graphically and I never had any issues with any of the games I've played except console freezes on very large ones like Bethesda titles

And actually PS5 stepped up on better handle of graphics quite a bit, as it is able to run games that were from PS4 generation which are so oversized and so chock-full of resources that it basically forces the PS4 to bake itself

I have all gens of PS and can say you'll be skipping some really great titles avoiding PS4 but also avoiding a console that is probably more likely to bake itself to a crisp than PS5.
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Are today's high-end TVs good for playing the PS3 regardless of whether they are 4K or FullHD?
 
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