PS3 HDMI port not working but AV port does work

[ps3xbox]

Hi
All,

I have got another old PS3, cech model
The HDMI port does not work, I have checked the port and pins, all seem ok
I have added some solder to pins, just incase it might be the problem but no luck

I have tried the reset video using the double beep method but no luck

The AV port works, so I assume the RSX is ok

I have been reading that the Silicon Image Sil9132CBU is responsible for the HDMI port to work
I wanted to ask if there any tests before replacing this

Also would anything else cause the HDMI port not to work

All help appreciated please
Thanks in advance

 

[DeViL303]

I do not know much about HDMI faults on PS3s, maybe someone else can help with that. but if you find its not an easy fix it might be simpler to just use it with component (1080p) instead. In lots of cases if people have component on their TVs its not in use so it makes very little difference really.

Upside is no HDCP, downside is no HDMI CEC, other than that there is not much difference except that component can be more susceptible to interference if running by power cables etc. .

 

[ps3xbox]

I do not know much about HDMI faults on PS3s, maybe someone else can help with that. but if you find its not an easy fix it might be simpler to just use it with component (1080p) instead. In lots of cases if people have component on their TVs its not in use so it makes very little difference really.

Upside is no HDCP, downside is no HDMI CEC, other than that there is not much difference except that component can be more susceptible to interference if running by power cables etc. .

Thanks for the quick reply. I will bear that in mind. I would prefer and like to get the HDMI working but i read about rhe component route and you mentioned it
Once again thanks

 

[xanadu247]

Troubleshooting HDMI issues should be done by focusing first on the HDMI port itself. Check for loose or broken pins inside the port itself. Change the port if so.

Next check that each pin inside the HDMI port has continuity with the component it leads to. A cut open HDMI cable mapped for each wire is a great tool. Re establish the connection if a trace is broken.

Next check the ICS and filters close to the HDMI port. Check the 22ohm resistor. Its known to blown with a lightning or power surge. Filters have to have continuity on both sides. Diodes have to only allow current in one direction. If bad, change diodes.

Last step is change the encoder IC if all above turns out fine.

Obviously this repair isn't for a noob or someone that doesn't have the correct tools and skillset.

And it is news to me that a component cable can output 1080p. It was my understanding that only 1080i can be achieved by component, which isn't quite HDMI output, but hardly noticeable to the naked eye.

 

[ps3xbox]

Troubleshooting HDMI issues should be done by focusing first on the HDMI port itself. Check for loose or broken pins inside the port itself. Change the port if so.

Next check that each pin inside the HDMI port has continuity with the component it leads to. A cut open HDMI cable mapped for each wire is a great tool. Re establish the connection if a trace is broken.

Next check the ICS and filters close to the HDMI port. Check the 22ohm resistor. Its known to blown with a lightning or power surge. Filters have to have continuity on both sides. Diodes have to only allow current in one direction. If bad, change diodes.

Last step is change the encoder IC if all above turns out fine.

Obviously this repair isn't for a noob or someone that doesn't have the correct tools and skillset.

And it is news to me that a component cable can output 1080p. It was my understanding that only 1080i can be achieved by component, which isn't quite HDMI output, but hardly noticeable to the naked eye.

Thanks for the reply.
Do you have a pinout of where all the pins go on this old ps3

I checked the filters and they are ok
I checked surrounding components

The port is ok and has been checked

Which 22 ohm resistor. Please can you high light it.

Thanks

 

[DeViL303]

And it is news to me that a component cable can output 1080p. It was my understanding that only 1080i can be achieved by component, which isn't quite HDMI output, but hardly noticeable to the naked eye.

I could be wrong on that but a quick Google seems to say it can be used for 1080p for games on all models, and for 1080p for BD movies on almost all models.

Some restriction imposed by Sony on BDs due to aacs or something.

Does not mean much but also any recordings I have ever done using component on ps3 always came out in 1080p but that might just be my PVR.

 

[ps3xbox]

I could be wrong on that but a quick Google seems to say it can be used for 1080p for games on all models, and for 1080p for BD movies on almost all models.

Some restriction imposed by on BDs due to aacs or something.

Does not mean much but also any recordings I have ever done using component on ps3 always came out in 1080p but that might just be my PVR.

Do these chips go often on these boards
What causes the hdmi not to work

 

[Cypher_CG89]

And it is news to me that a component cable can output 1080p. It was my understanding that only 1080i can be achieved by component,

Component cables can output from 480p to 1080p.

What causes the hdmi not to work

It depends, HDMI on PS3's is mainly handled by the AV Manager which is part of SYSMGR in Lv1, it communicates with SYSCON and the RSX.

SYSCON handles such things as HDCP and HDMI controller stuff including CEC. And the RSX handle's the Video/Audio output resolutions, colour, scaling etc which is also fed through MultiAV for displaying in SD resolutions.

So there are many things working with each other... any one of them could be the issue, then you also got the HW side of things, HDMI port. the encoder, any resistors etc... its like a rabbit hole of things to check...

 

[ps3xbox]

Component cables can output from 480p to 1080p.



It depends, HDMI on PS3's is mainly handled by the AV Manager which is part of SYSMGR in Lv1, it communicates with SYSCON and the RSX.

SYSCON handles such things as HDCP and HDMI controller stuff including CEC. And the RSX handle's the Video/Audio output resolutions, colour, scaling etc which is also fed through MultiAV for displaying in SD resolutions.

So there are many things working with each other... any one of them could be the issue, then you also got the HW side of things, HDMI port. the encoder, any resistors etc... its like a rabbit hole of things to check...

Hi
Thanks for the reply
If the AV port is working that would mean that the SYSCON is working
I would really appreciate all the help to try and get this working, please

 

[DeViL303]

What causes the hdmi not to work

I think in almost all cases it will be caused by a HW fault/damage. IMO from things like crap getting into the port or hole in the end of the cable and then it gets plugged in bending pins etc, and also from pressure put on it when cables are pulled, power surges or even static maybe, people fumbling around trying to put the cable in behind the machine, its fairly common for HDMI ports to get damaged on all devices really just like USBs, for the same reasons generally.

 

[Cypher_CG89]

If the AV port is working that would mean that the SYSCON is working

If the SYSCON wasn't working you would know about it as your PS3 would not boot at all. It has more functions than the ones I mentioned, these were just how it is tied to HDMI etc.

Most likely in your case its a HW fault, something damaged or faulty etc.

One thing I noticed you did not mention in your OP is this: Did you try with another HDMI cable..? Quite a few people on here have mentioned HDMI problem's then when they used another HDMI cable the issue was solved.

EDIT: Start with the basic's it could be then jump into the more complicated stuff, you seem to have jumped straight into the deep end..

 

[ps3xbox]

If the SYSCON wasn't working you would know about it as your PS3 would not boot at all. It has more functions than the ones I mentioned, these were just how it is tied to HDMI etc.

Most likely in your case its a HW fault, something damaged or faulty etc.

One thing I noticed you did not mention in your OP is this: Did you try with another HDMI cable..? Quite a few people on here have mentioned HDMI problem's then when they used another HDMI cable the issue was solved.

EDIT: Start with the basic's it could be then jump into the more complicated stuff, you seem to have jumped straight into the deep end..

I have tried different HDMI cables but no luck
What things can I check to get this fixed please

 

[DeViL303]

What things can I check to get this fixed please

See post #4.

The idea of cutting a HDMI cable in two, and then stripping it back and using it to check continuity is a good one, you should try that IMO. Check if all wires in the cable are connecting properly at the motherboard. If you do that and they are all ok then you rule out the port and move onto chips and resistors etc..

 

[ElGris]

That's a hardware failure as people already mentioned, you have two options. Or you take it to a experienced consoles repair store, or use the A/V cable. Components cable is a good option since you can get 1080, but the thing is your TV has to have those ports.

That HDMI IC needs a reflow, a rework, or a replacement, which includes all of that. Don't try to fix it.

 

[ps3xbox]

See post #4.

The idea of cutting a HDMI cable in two, and then stripping it back and using it to check continuity is a good one, you should try that IMO. Check if all wires in the cable are connecting properly at the motherboard. If you do that and they are all ok then you rule out the port and move onto chips and resistors etc..

I have checked all the pins and they are all ok
I have checked the traces and they seem to be all ok as well

 

[ps3xbox]

That's a hardware failure as people already mentioned, you have two options. Or you take it to a experienced consoles repair store, or use the A/V cable. Components cable is a good option since you can get 1080, but the thing is your TV has to have those ports.

That HDMI IC needs a reflow, a rework, or a replacement, which includes all of that. Don't try to fix it.

I would prefer to fix it Myself with thee help from the talented people here as opposed to taking it to a shop ( there are not many local console repair shops, near me)

 

[ps3xbox]

See post #4.

The idea of cutting a HDMI cable in two, and then stripping it back and using it to check continuity is a good one, you should try that IMO. Check if all wires in the cable are connecting properly at the motherboard. If you do that and they are all ok then you rule out the port and move onto chips and resistors etc..

When you mention chips and resistors which ones exactly

 

[DeViL303]

I have checked all the pins and they are all ok
I have checked the traces and they seem to be all ok as well

Ok, you need to check continuity from cable to board really. Anyway if you are sure there can not be anything wrong with the port then it must be chips or something.

I do not know which ones exactly. others here have mentioned some.

 

[ps3xbox]

Ok, you need to check continuity from cable to board really. Anyway if you are sure there can not be anything wrong with the port then it must be chips or something.

I do not know which ones exactly. others here have mentioned some.

Dont see any mention of specific chips, resistors

 

[ps3xbox]

If the SYSCON wasn't working you would know about it as your PS3 would not boot at all. It has more functions than the ones I mentioned, these were just how it is tied to HDMI etc.

Most likely in your case its a HW fault, something damaged or faulty etc.

One thing I noticed you did not mention in your OP is this: Did you try with another HDMI cable..? Quite a few people on here have mentioned HDMI problem's then when they used another HDMI cable the issue was solved.

EDIT: Start with the basic's it could be then jump into the more complicated stuff, you seem to have jumped straight into the deep end..

I done the basics, to begin with