How can I Make ISO file From BD or From PS3 Games

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complex_guy`

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Hi, everyone. I want to know is it possible for me to copy BD as ISO into my pc. Or is there anyway i can transfer games from my ps3 to my pc for sake of saving and memory saving? Like if i get BD from someone and i save it as ISO or something else for later use. How am i supposed to do that? And please explain me the process if possible. Just curious about the process. Want to know about the terminology about all the ripping and mounting. Please keep it easy, I'm very new into all this. More how to do this both using FAT and NTFS. I heard we can't move more than 4GB using FAT. How to do all this using NTFS
 
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You can rip BD discs using different homebrew, such as IRISMAN or multiMAN, and mount them using the same though I personally use webMAN MOD. All of these support NTFS drives, so the 4GB file limit of FAT32 isn't an issue. Are you talking about BD movies or PS3 games? BD movies can be ripped as ISO, but they will still be encrypted due to the copy protection on the discs but this can be overcome with programs like WinX Blu-ray Decrypter (thanks to @Cypher_CG89 for the recommendation).

Hope this answers a couple of your questions.
 
Coldheart2236 said:
You can rip BD discs using different homebrew, such as IRISMAN or multiMAN, and mount them using the same though I personally use webMAN MOD. All of these support NTFS drives, so the 4GB file limit of FAT32 isn't an issue. Are you talking about BD movies or PS3 games? BD movies can be ripped as ISO, but they will still be encrypted due to the copy protection on the discs but this can be overcome with programs like WinX Blu-ray Decrypter (thanks to @Cypher_CG89 for the recommendation).

Hope this answers a couple of your questions.
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Don't mention that effing program to me lad... am still p!ssed off that I used to pay nearly £50 a year for it and now its god damn free for the full professional grade program .... :rolling::rolling:


That being said its one of the best programs to use on BD movies.
 
Cypher_CG89 said:
Don't mention that effing program to me lad... am still p!ssed off that I used to pay nearly £50 a year for it and now its god damn free for the full professional grade program .... :rolling::rolling:
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Oh aye I forgot about that lol sorry to twist the knife there...but it is a good program to be fair so just passing a good recommendation on lad.
 
Coldheart2236 said:
You can rip BD discs using different homebrew, such as IRISMAN or multiMAN, and mount them using the same though I personally use webMAN MOD. All of these support NTFS drives, so the 4GB file limit of FAT32 isn't an issue. Are you talking about BD movies or PS3 games? BD movies can be ripped as ISO, but they will still be encrypted due to the copy protection on the discs but this can be overcome with programs like WinX Blu-ray Decrypter (thanks to @Cypher_CG89 for the recommendation).

Hope this answers a couple of your questions.
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I'm talking about ps3 games. I'm currently using multiMan as well as webMan Mod, i can transfer files using it to some external source but as much as i searched or heard. NTFS can be used to transfer data to internal but it can't be used to download data from internal. How I'm supposed to do that? More is it necessary to format the external hard first thats in my personal use before connecting it with ps3?
 
Coldheart2236 said:
You can rip BD discs using different homebrew, such as IRISMAN or multiMAN, and mount them using the same though I personally use webMAN MOD. All of these support NTFS drives, so the 4GB file limit of FAT32 isn't an issue. Are you talking about BD movies or PS3 games? BD movies can be ripped as ISO, but they will still be encrypted due to the copy protection on the discs but this can be overcome with programs like WinX Blu-ray Decrypter (thanks to @Cypher_CG89 for the recommendation).

Hope this answers a couple of your questions.
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Can you please explain me the terminology or the process of ripping, mounting etc. I want to learn about it, like what it is. How it works. What these terms exactly mean.
 
If i copy the folders of BD game on my PC. And put this folder on USB. Can i play the game on multiman or webman?
 
snkplkn said:
If i copy the folders of BD game on my PC. And put this folder on USB. Can i play the game on multiman or webman?
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Yes, if you by folders you mean in JB folder format> direct disc rip. But this is only supported on FAT32 MBR format ext HDDs and USB devices, you cannot play JB folder format from NTFS ext Devices only ISO on these.

All the Backup Managers can play PS3 games from External USB Devices. Also beware then some games will not work on an external USB in JB folder format, this is why ISO is recomended.
 
complex_guy` said:
Can you please explain me the terminology or the process of ripping, mounting etc. I want to learn about it, like what it is. How it works. What these terms exactly mean.
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Well, is complicated...

The term "ripping" can be used for 2 different things in PS3 slang, the classic meaning is to remove parts from somehing (like jack the ripper), when applyed to a game it consists in removing (or replacing by dummies) some files of a game (usually the audio for languages you are not going to use)
And when applying to video discs is to make a copy of the disc... but it can be applyed to games too

The concept of "mounting" in PS3 is not widelly used, lot of years ago nobody mentioned it, is something that has been using latelly (mostly in this forum, because some backup manager developers started using it)

In the PS3 the backup managers are "cheating" the firmware into thinking that is loading a real disc inserted in the BD drive
The point is... the PS3 thinks is a real disc, but is not (is an ISO, or a PS3 in JB format with folder and files loaded as a single disc)
When you load a game backup in a backup manager it takes you back to the main XMB where you can see an icon of the (fake) disc, we could say that the game is "mounted" in a virtual BlueRay Drive

This is specially true with 2 of the old mounting mehods only availables for PS3 games in JB format, named BDemu and BDmirror
BDemu is a feature of official debug firmwares that is repurposed to use to load backups, this is really an emulated virtual Bluray Drive
And the BDmirror redirects the device paths.. so the PS3 firmware thinks that is accessing the Bluray Drive

Probably some of the details i said are not completly correct, but as an overall explain is fine i guess, if someone wants to correct me or add some detail please do :)
 
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complex_guy` said:
I'm talking about ps3 games. I'm currently using multiMan as well as webMan Mod, i can transfer files using it to some external source but as much as i searched or heard. NTFS can be used to transfer data to internal but it can't be used to download data from internal. How I'm supposed to do that? More is it necessary to format the external hard first thats in my personal use before connecting it with ps3?
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I use multiMAN to rip the games in folder (legacy JB - short for jailbreak) format, which I then remove the UPDATE folder to save ~256MB of storage space on my USB external drive. "Ripping" can mean this or as sandungas explained, removing files or replacing them with dummy files, again to save space.

From there, I use PS3 ISO Tools and generate an ISO (this decrypts the files since making an ISO with a program like ImgBurn will not mount and play on the PS3) which I then put onto the NTFS partition on my external USB drive and mount on the PS3 with webMAN MOD from the PS3ISO folder on the root of the drive. You can also play games in ISO format from PS3ISO on the internal HDD (dev_hdd0) or a FAT32 drive/partition of an external drive, but the latter carries a 4GB file size limit and a lot of games are well over that in size.

You can transfer to/from USB, including NTFS, using a file manager. For this, I use and recommend ManaGunZ but the same can be done with multiMAN since it has an integrated file manager but I don't use it as I prefer the UI of ManaGunZ. You don't need to format the external HDD before using it; it's completely optional.

I think sandungas has covered mounting/ripping nicely already, so hopefully this answers a few of your questions. Is there anything else that you're unsure about, or want clarifying?
 
Coldheart2236 said:
I use multiMAN to rip the games in folder (legacy JB - short for jailbreak) format, which I then remove the UPDATE folder to save ~256MB of storage space on my USB external drive. "Ripping" can mean this or as sandungas explained, removing files or replacing them with dummy files, again to save space.

From there, I use PS3 ISO Tools and generate an ISO (this decrypts the files since making an ISO with a program like ImgBurn will not mount and play on the PS3) which I then put onto the NTFS partition on my external USB drive and mount on the PS3 with webMAN MOD from the PS3ISO folder on the root of the drive. You can also play games in ISO format from PS3ISO on the internal HDD (dev_hdd0) or a FAT32 drive/partition of an external drive, but the latter carries a 4GB file size limit and a lot of games are well over that in size.

You can transfer to/from USB, including NTFS, using a file manager. For this, I use and recommend ManaGunZ but the same can be done with multiMAN since it has an integrated file manager but I don't use it as I prefer the UI of ManaGunZ. You don't need to format the external HDD before using it; it's completely optional.

I think sandungas has covered mounting/ripping nicely already, so hopefully this answers a few of your questions. Is there anything else that you're unsure about, or want clarifying?
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¿What risks to the hardware involve using the ntfs format?
 
neo88 said:
¿What risks to the hardware involve using the ntfs format?
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No risks, the homebrew includes drivers to support NTFS and for me it's worked flawlessly. It is a great feature, as you can have your PS3 games backed up in ISO format on an NTFS drive, without using up any internal HDD space (aside from any installed game data for the game).
 
Guys can use usb ntfs drive on IRISMAN for hen users
unfortunately,usb ntfs drive doesn't work on mmcm but cfw worked
 
Coldheart2236 said:
No risks, the homebrew includes drivers to support NTFS and for me it's worked flawlessly. It is a great feature, as you can have your PS3 games backed up in ISO format on an NTFS drive, without using up any internal HDD space (aside from any installed game data for the game).
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ok. men thanks
 
Hey guys, sorry for the necro. Id like to know specifically, is that okay to rip PS3 games using ImgBurn on PC ?
Im talking about setup of PC with a Blu Ray drive.
Theres a game i cannot create an ISO or Copy on PS3 (sector errors), so id like to try to do it on a PC.
 
It is totally ok but they need to be decrypted as second step (it is not enough to make disc image alone) if You want play them on PS3 from internal or external drive. You cannot get decryption key on PC, only on PS3, but various of sites sharing keys for many games (not all are collected).

In additional, ODD or ODDW must support PS3BD-ROM or else You will be unable to read disc contents (and probably also making disc image).
 
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Can you please post the name of the decryption software ?
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This is an old topic of discussion.
Should we use raw encrypted images or decrypted images?

For long term storage, ideally we would use 1:1 images but that's not really possible due to the fact that some parts of the retail BD game discs where some authentication data is stored (we don't much about this) cannot be read, unless maybe if using a hacked BD firmware to that effect.
The authentication of a disc is done with a pair of encryption keys, one stored in the BD controller, the other in the Flash Memory, that's why you must remarry a new BD controller, it's basically to update the key pair needed for disc authentication.

Then there is the per sector encryption.
Iirc the static retail disc key used for sector decryption can be found at sector 0x800 of a BD game (or something like that) but it's encrypted and must be decrypted by the one the isolated loaders, appldr I would assume.
If I am not mistaken, CFW tools found in Rebug and Evilnat CFWs can dump any retail game disc key decrypted.

Once you have the disc key, I think you can derive the encryption key for each disc sector with a simple algo that "wraps" the sector number into the disc key, something likely that. The algorithm can be found in the wiki if I am not mistaken, the encryption is basic AES CBC and the keys, static disc key and derivations, are all 16 bytes long.

If you have a BD drive in your PC that supports PS3 BD game discs, then you can look at the rpcs3 wiki for ways to dump and decrypt game discs.
https://wiki.rpcs3.net/index.php?title=Help:Dumping_PlayStation_3_games

As a general rule, to be mounted with Cobra or Mamba, an iso image must be decrypted and the most reliable tool we have to create decrypted images from folders and files (despite a few flaws) is makeps3iso, the same app can be used on PC and on PS3 (with different builds of course), it's integrated in Irisman file manager on PS3 and in Rudi Rastelli's tool for PC, on PS3, the rpcs3 wiki suggests to use multiman, personally I prefer Irisman for this.
 
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Thank you guys for your help, i was able to successfully dump one of my games:
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As for games that gave me sector errors, im afraid those discs are damaged =/
 
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