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Omar Aqoub said:
Why would I kill a hard drive just because I'm using it for my own business?
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You're providing low amperage to it, that's why.
One PS2 USB port does not provide enough, that's why you need a Y cable.
Imagine you're walking, but with a leg only... You're doing a big effort to walk, that's how the HDD feels on just one of the PS2's USB port.
Now imagine you have two legs and you can walk as usual... That's how the HDD feels with a Y cable using both of the PS2's USB ports.
 
HWNJ said:
You're providing low amperage to it, that's why.
One PS2 USB port does not provide enough, that's why you need a Y cable.
Imagine you're walking, but with a leg only... You're doing a big effort to walk, that's how the HDD feels on just one of the PS2's USB port.
Now imagine you have two legs and you can walk as usual... That's how the HDD feels with a Y cable using both of the PS2's USB ports.
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Ok? So is there a nearby shop that I can go to find this Y cable?
 
How old are you, kid? Ask your parents for help. Don't bother us with your immature problems. How can we help you? Do we have to buy the laptop with the cable and ship them for you?

I would not bother with the Y cable if the hard drive is working right. I used the USB3.0 HDD with 850 mA current consumption and it worked very well. It was the SCPH-77004 model, which seemed to provide very stable output. The PS2 was the only consumer device, apart from my computer, which worked with my external hard drive without a Y cable.
 
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Agrippa said:
How old are you, kid? Ask your parents for help. Don't bother us with your immature problems. How can we help you? Do we have to buy the laptop with the cable and ship them for you?

I would not bother with the Y cable if the hard drive is working right. I used the USB3.0 HDD with 850 mA current consumption and it worked very well. It was the SCPH-77004 model, which seemed to provide very stable output. The PS2 was the only consumer device, apart from my computer, which worked with my external hard drive without a Y cable.
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I'm 20 years old. I live in UK. I don't have a Y cable and how am I killing the drive? What do u think, I'm stupid or summit?
 
No, you are not killing your drive. Assuming the HDD is working stable, the hard drive will take the amount of current it needs. There is a very slight risk of damaging the console, but the risk will not decrease in any case, when the Y cable is used.
 
Agrippa said:
No, you are not killing your drive. Assuming the HDD is working stable, the hard drive will take the amount of current it needs. There is a very slight risk of damaging the console, but the risk will not decrease in any case, when the Y cable is used.
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Thnx for telling the truth because I'm not really killing the drive.
But what can damage my PS2 slim?
 
There is nothing "burned to the drive", when INSTALLING Windows or copying an image...

Omar Aqoub said:
Cables don't matter
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Not true, or these cables would not exist in the first place.
A HDD CAN run instable or fail to run at all!
Usually an HDD uses more current when the platter spins up, so it's less of a problem once they spin.
 
Agrippa said:
I would not bother with the Y cable if the hard drive is working right. I used the USB3.0 HDD with 850 mA current consumption and it worked very well. It was the SCPH-77004 model, which seemed to provide very stable output. The PS2 was the only consumer device, apart from my computer, which worked with my external hard drive without a Y cable.
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Even if they work, they work under bad conditions. I have seen hard drives die after 6 months to one year of usage in these conditions, but I have also seen some of the very same model last way more than that (years and years) using a Y cable. So, just be careful with that.

Omar Aqoub said:
Ok? So is there a nearby shop that I can go to find this Y cable?
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First, I don't know your location. Second, go outside and take a look! Wear a face mask and a face shield!

Omar Aqoub said:
I don't have a Y cable and how am I killing the drive?
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Agrippa said:
No, you are not killing your drive. Assuming the HDD is working stable, the hard drive will take the amount of current it needs. There is a very slight risk of damaging the console, but the risk will not decrease in any case, when the Y cable is used.
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I will correct what @Agrippa said:
Yes, you're slowly killing the drive a s the HDD is not working on stable conditions (I explained that above).
Adding to what @TnA said: HDDs can run STABLE, INSTABLE or NOT RUN AT ALL
Right now, you're using it on INSTABLE CONDITIONS, even if you think it is working fine, it is not
Also, there's no risk of damaging the console by using a HDD unless the HDD has some kind of short circuit or something, which it does not has.
 
HWNJ said:
Even if they work, they work under bad conditions. I have seen hard drives die after 6 months to one year of usage in these conditions, but I have also seen some of the very same model last way more than that (years and years) using a Y cable. So, just be careful with that.


First, I don't know your location. Second, go outside and take a look! Wear a face mask and a face shield!



I will correct what @Agrippa said:
Yes, you're slowly killing the drive a s the HDD is not working on stable conditions (I explained that above).
Adding to what @TnA said: HDDs can run STABLE, INSTABLE or NOT RUN AT ALL
Right now, you're using it on INSTABLE CONDITIONS, even if you think it is working fine, it is not
Also, there's no risk of damaging the console by using a HDD unless the HDD has some kind of short circuit or something, which it does not has.
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Listen, u heard him! I'm not killing my drive! Please stop this nonsense! I will save up for the Y cable and I know u don't know my location. I have the B cable and my 2TB SEAGATE Expansion drive has a B cable with it, sometimes I have to get used to it.
 
Omar Aqoub said:
Listen, u heard him! I'm not killing my drive! Please stop this nonsense!
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I have heard him and I know he's wrong at what he said.
If you want to as he said "because it is easier for you", then, do as you wish. I already stated the facts above and, as I said:
HWNJ said:
you're using it on INSTABLE CONDITIONS, even if you think it is working fine, it is not
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If you want to believe that a "Senior Member" said, go ahead, believe it.
Me (a Developer) and TnA (a Moderator) told you you're killing your HDD slowly...
So.. believe whoever you want...
 
Man, do not use such cheap rhetorics. I could make similar remarks about yourself and ask: "Would somebody believe the guy from the third world country?" Are you fine about that?
I do not like the paranoia and I do not like to scare anybody. If the drive does not reconnect itself, thus operates normally and, what is more important, spins up without a problem then everything should be alright. The HDD as a passive device is dependant on the host one. And the host device is restricted with the current it could output (and I assume both Sony and an HDD vendor used protections). In general it is 500 mA, but the Sony could make something out of spec, because as I heard years go, the controller inside the console does not follow the specifications closely.
Either way, the best way to provide a stable power to the device is to use active powered hub devices, instead of any Y shaped cables. If the drive was shipped with just a cable, without any external power, then it was designed to draw enough power from the single port. Of course, some host devices would fail to meet the desired output, that is why the Y cables are available (but forbidden in the USB specification, because on very rare circumstances of erroneous plugging, they could damage the devices).
Once again, I am happy to listen about facts, instead of personal insults and paranoid messages. It is not a matter of believing somebody, but of understanding the subject instead. It is a science and engineering after all, not a religion or something like that. I am using the Y cable myself on devices which fail to provide enough current from the single port. On devices which do not, I do not use it. Period.
 
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Agrippa said:
If the drive does not reconnect itself, thus operates normally and, what is more important, spins up without a problem then everything should be alright.
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Experience has proven the opposite. I'm not the only one saying it.
Even if it spins up at the correct speed, the motor is working with less power than what it expects to work with, meaning the rotor is having a hard time getting it to spin, meaning that after lots of spin ups in that condition, it will fail to work some day, sooner than expected, due to the effort it did over time. That's the fact, deal with it... Wanna see it is true? Use a pocket HDD day after day on a TV set that only has 2.0 ports (no 3.x)... it will last you 6 months to a year.

Agrippa said:
Either way, the best way to provide a stable power to the device is to use active powered hub devices, instead of any Y shaped cables. If the drive was shipped with just a cable, without any external power, then it was designed to draw enough power from the single port. Of course, some host devices would fail to meet the desired output, that is why the Y cables are available (but forbidden in the USB specification, because on very rare circumstances of erroneous plugging, they could damage the devices).
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Wrong, again. A HUB is recognized as "a hub", not as a USB mass device directly connected to a USB port, meaning some homebrews (depending on the driver used) will fail to recognize the HDD. So, HUBs are a big no on PS2 or Wii...
Also, I have never heard or seen a Y cable causing such issues and I have been using them FOR YEARS and also lots of friends of mine too.
 
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