XBOX 360 Is the X360 scene dead?

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As the title says, I wonder if the X360 scene is dead..? I've been searching the net for a few weeks, trying to gather as much information as possible regarding the X360 and homebrew development, but it seems like most things are lost (i.e dead links and contradictory information on most things).

Here, where I live, I've seen an increase in the JTAG/RGH market. Lots of consoles beeing traded and modded. I got my hands on an ACE v3 chip & a jr programmer v2 for ~65€, buried myself in reading material on the subject and found a great opportunity to learn. But there it ends. It seems as the homebrew community is lost, or well-hidden.
 
Well, I'll make use of what I find then.

First things first tho. Need to find a nand cable (as my jr programmer v2 didn't have one) that ships from within EU and don't bankrupt me. So far I've only found it for 15-20€ incl shipping, and that's a bit steep for such a small cable IMHO.
 
What shocks me, it the utter lack of homebrew games on both the PS3 and 360, such as open sourced PC ports. I wish the community had as much games coming out with homebrew like the Dreamcast and OG Xbox, those 2 systems still have a thriving homebrew community to this day where games still get ported to them over from PC. Hell, at least the 2 aforementioned consoles and the PS3 got a SM64 port. I just wish even on PS3 there were way more homebrew PC ports of classic open sourced games. I loved playing them on Dreamcast and Xbox. I just hoped way more powerful systems like PS3 and 360 would be ripe for all kinds of ports, like maybe Doom 3 with mods? It seems the golden age of homebrew ported games from PC to consoles is far behind us...
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Having been on both xbox 360 and ps3 modded consoles (360 - Drive flash & PS3 - CFW).

I have seen it a lot with microsoft and sony systems with the communities around them and it is all down to what you can do with the consoles.

Xbox Classic - You can turn it into a awesome emulator, backup player and it gave birth to XBMC a.k.a kodi - Very easy to mod when it was discovered and showed a lot of promise.
Xbox 360 - My god modding these things was a nightmare you had to disasemble the console to be able to do any sort of modding from playing backup to RGH/JTAG to my knowledge all had to be done with breaking into the system.
Xbox One - Going off memory here but it had a nand dump and little to 0 modifcations that can play any sort of firmware.

PSX - Backups,Emulation and a recent step is you can play games from an external storage device which is amazing since it opens the console up to homebrew and who knows what else.
PS2 - Backups,Emulation,Homebrew and you can play your backups from a HDD and do much more.
PS3 - Backups,Emulation,Homebrew and whatever you can throw at the systems.
PS4 - Starting to see signs of CFW and I personally will be buying one when CFW is in the wild.


Screw it nintendo while I'm here but kinda brief don't have much experience with the older systems.

Nes to N64 & all the handhelds - Flash carts you can play anything you can throw onto a SD card.
Gamecube - To my knowledge you can modify these to play of an SD or usb device and again can throw anything on them and see what sticks.
Wii - Backups,Emulation,Homebrew,CFW (In a weird way) - Modified a few of these and my god the amount you can do with those little rectangles is amazing from throwing anything you can get to work onto a usb device or sd card and have it work or load backups just beautifully.
Wii U - Slowly getting to the same levels of the wii but its not 100% there yet.
Switch - Oh boy those little tablets with controllers - I don't have experience with them at all but I have watched videos of them being modded and same place as the Wii U getting there and in a good place.


Now my main go to point is it's not the manufacturer that keeps the consoles alive its what you can do with the consoles that keeps the communities alive and how easily they can be modified without having to take out a screw driver and soldering iron.
 
I always loved soldering. Something about it I just enjoy. Now that I'm down to one arm it's a little trickier but I still like the challenge and feel like I've accomplished something unlike a soft mod.
I'm probably not the average user but I feel like having to do a little work can be helpful to learn about the system.

I mean no disrespect for soft mods they just aren't as fun to me :)
 
pink1 said:
I always loved soldering. Something about it I just enjoy. Now that I'm down to one arm it's a little trickier but I still like the challenge and feel like I've accomplished something unlike a soft mod.
I'm probably not the average user but I feel like having to do a little work can be helpful to learn about the system.

I mean no disrespect for soft mods they just aren't as fun to me :)
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You should get one of the soldering helper things that hold like wires and parts close to each other they are a god send for it but I'm kinda in the same boat soft modding is super easy now thanks to the work people have put into it.

But to get an xbox 360 to be able to play backups before RGH/JTAG it was such a pain in the ass to flash a DVD drive in the early days think I still have my old firmware floating around somewhere.
 
Combatxlemming said:
You should get one of the soldering helper things that hold like wires and parts close to each other they are a god send for it but I'm kinda in the same boat soft modding is super easy now thanks to the work people have put into it.

But to get an xbox 360 to be able to play backups before RGH/JTAG it was such a pain in the ass to flash a DVD drive in the early days think I still have my old firmware floating around somewhere.
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My sister gave me one of those awhile back it even has a spot to hold an iron and a sponge. It's awesome for a lot of jobs and could have saved my fingers so many burns when I was first learning lol
Yeah the guys that make the soft mods are amazing and they open the scene up to a lot of people that wouldn't be able to enjoy modded system otherwise.

I had to build some tools to flash a disc drive for a slim a few months ago while installing a glitch chip. I also made a program for changing the sounds on slim 360s. It can be fun trying to get everything soldered up but its pretty cool to be able to customize your system :)
 
pink1 said:
My sister gave me one of those awhile back it even has a spot to hold an iron and a sponge. It's awesome for a lot of jobs and could have saved my fingers so many burns when I was first learning lol
Yeah the guys that make the soft mods are amazing and they open the scene up to a lot of people that wouldn't be able to enjoy modded system otherwise.

I had to build some tools to flash a disc drive for a slim a few months ago while installing a glitch chip. I also made a program for changing the sounds on slim 360s. It can be fun trying to get everything soldered up but its pretty cool to be able to customize your system :)
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The amount of people I have heard stories of them burning themselfs on a soldering iron is unreal yes it happens when you a learning but hot pointy end hot xD

What amazes me is the time that they put into it like the current way to flash/hen the ps3s you use the web browser like the amount of time someone spent just looking for that small exploit must of been insane.

Yeeah just checked what you have to do to flash the 360 drives its unreal just to be able to play backups where on ps3 its maybe a 5-10 minute job depending on how fast your internet speed is and how quickly you can jam in a usb stick.
Used to love spending time looking at peoples custom works they have done to there consoles my favourites have to be when people stick computer liquid cooled aio's and stuff them in.
 
Well, i just finished my first ever try to RGH a X360. Went for my Trinity and an ACE v3 chip. Soldered the nand cables directly to the JR, after flashing the timing files, and used the CR4 speedup files too.

Dang proud of myself, if I may, as I was successful on the first try ever and I get instaboot every time.

Would like to learn more about this sound mod and what's required to do it, tho.. sounds tempting.
 
Spawn said:
Well, i just finished my first ever try to RGH a X360. Went for my Trinity and an ACE v3 chip. Soldered the nand cables directly to the JR, after flashing the timing files, and used the CR4 speedup files too.

Dang proud of myself, if I may, as I was successful on the first try ever and I get instaboot every time.

Would like to learn more about this sound mod and what's required to do it, tho.. sounds tempting.
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Great job bud. You have every right to be proud of yourself.

Here is the link to the sound app. If you already have a J-R Programmer you can use the Xecuter Sonus 360 editor my app is for using a Teensy 2.0 or another AVR device.
 
Bigup on your success.

I think the only time I ever owned a 360 was to use it as a Netflix ho... I also helped a friend with flashing custom drive firmware as I had the right chipset on my PC motherboard to connect to SATA. It was a royal pain in the backside having my PC side panel off, on its side with the 360 semi-disassembled, balancing on the PC.... It was a cable/power management nightmare lol.

I've never looked into RGH/JTAG. But there isn't a ton of games I've actually played, and seeing as your here in a Sony/Playstation dominant forum looking for 360 homebrew, I'm assuming there isn't much benefit...?
 
Fin9ersMcGee said:
Bigup on your success.

...and seeing as your here in a Sony/Playstation dominant forum looking for 360 homebrew, I'm assuming there isn't much benefit...?
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Thanks. Well it may be PS dominant, but i enjoy to explore/learn about anything and everything, so naturally Xbox will cross my path at some point. I do have a few PS2 and PS3 modded and running CFW, some Wii/WiiU as well.. i just love to tinker.
 
the scene is largely dead, yes. it's been that way for years. the FSD team disbanded, and no one really works on homebrew. you do get new system updates hacked though, so there's still that. a lot of things had been solved in the 360 scene far earlier than in the ps3 one, so there's not really a need as much for a presence of some sort. though, emulators are awful on the system, and there's not much homebrew beyond unlockers and content delivery stuff. I still do all things manually, because I trust myself more than an app. that's how I learned what most subfolders mean (i.e. dlc, game, demo, etc.). I'd suggest keeping a log of all updates. I tend to do that even though it's not necessary (the debian disc is good for if you have a botched update). that's only happened once, and I managed to fix it using that disc:

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this is the last thing I can think of that's been released (thanks to Math). it's being able to use xbox 360 guide while playing an xbox game (you need to mount hddx instead of just copying and pasting or it doesn't work; google for Math's twitter to get the emulation files):

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btw, you might want to block xbox live in family settings. that's what I've done or what most people do even more so than liveblock in dashlaunch. it will ensure you never sign in even if dashlaunch isn't installed. there is a way to sign in to live but you have to compile the app yourself. I don't have an xdk on my computer, but you need that and possibly visual studio with its github. you'll be banned almost instantly if you sign with an rgh otherwise. this spoofs the kv I believe, but I've never used it.

also, I think the FSD team released the source code, which gave rise to Aurora. Aurora (possibly FS3 (yeah, they trimmed the name to freestyle instead of freestyle dash 3) I believe can use voice commands. I use FSD2, since it seems to be the fastest, and I don't own a kinect.
 
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