PS3 Opinions about running PS3 games on the hacked PS4 and PS5

Mohammed Haouas

Mohammed Haouas

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Hello,

Dear brother aldostools,

We are in the year 2024 and a new modified update was released for the PS5 device. Just a question that confused me. Why are the developers so far? Why do the developers ignore running PS3 games on the hacked PS4 and PS5? Why this neglect by developers? We know great developers who are credited with hacking all Sony devices: Evilnat, Rebug, Firefox, and Theflow0, and I will not forget you, who contributed greatly to the development of programs and games "Aldostools," and I will forget the late developer "Al Habib," may God have mercy on him. I consider them the greatest professors in hacking, and their favor over us is still great, and their modifications still hold up to this day.

Currently, there is the developer Evilnat, who is taking care of CFW and the HEN team. Why don't you cooperate with each other and unite with new and old developers in order to succeed in running PS3 games on a hacked PS5, and why not even on a hacked PS4? Why not? PS3 games are an ancient legacy and deserve Honesty of support.

As for some hacked PS2 games, some of them do not work on the hacked PS3. Do you know my brother, a developer who is not interested in games, meaning he can modify the files manually? To give you an example: the Tom and Jerry game, the PS2 version, was not running at all on the hacked PS3 until he modified its files and succeeded. In running it, yes indeed there are some football games and game mods that do not work even if they are in PKG, ISO or ISO.BIN.ENC format or even running them from a PS2 emulator on a hacked PS3 but they do not work unfortunately).

My dear brother, I just want your opinion on all of this and nothing else? Sorry for the inappropriate topic for the forum, I just love everyone's opinions.

My greetings to you, my dear brother, only out of my love and interest in everything related to hacked devices.
 
Mohammed Haouas said:
Hello,

Dear brother aldostools,

We are in the year 2024 and a new modified update was released for the PS5 device. Just a question that confused me. Why are the developers so far? Why do the developers ignore running PS3 games on the hacked PS4 and PS5? Why this neglect by developers? We know great developers who are credited with hacking all Sony devices: Evilnat, Rebug, Firefox, and Theflow0, and I will not forget you, who contributed greatly to the development of programs and games "Aldostools," and I will forget the late developer "Al Habib," may God have mercy on him. I consider them the greatest professors in hacking, and their favor over us is still great, and their modifications still hold up to this day.

Currently, there is the developer Evilnat, who is taking care of CFW and the HEN team. Why don't you cooperate with each other and unite with new and old developers in order to succeed in running PS3 games on a hacked PS5, and why not even on a hacked PS4? Why not? PS3 games are an ancient legacy and deserve Honesty of support.

As for some hacked PS2 games, some of them do not work on the hacked PS3. Do you know my brother, a developer who is not interested in games, meaning he can modify the files manually? To give you an example: the Tom and Jerry game, the PS2 version, was not running at all on the hacked PS3 until he modified its files and succeeded. In running it, yes indeed there are some football games and game mods that do not work even if they are in PKG, ISO or ISO.BIN.ENC format or even running them from a PS2 emulator on a hacked PS3 but they do not work unfortunately).

My dear brother, I just want your opinion on all of this and nothing else? Sorry for the inappropriate topic for the forum, I just love everyone's opinions.

My greetings to you, my dear brother, only out of my love and interest in everything related to hacked devices.
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Not even Sony can do it. Piss off
 
Mohammed Haouas said:
Hello,

Dear brother aldostools,

We are in the year 2024 and a new modified update was released for the PS5 device. Just a question that confused me. Why are the developers so far? Why do the developers ignore running PS3 games on the hacked PS4 and PS5? Why this neglect by developers? We know great developers who are credited with hacking all Sony devices: Evilnat, Rebug, Firefox, and Theflow0, and I will not forget you, who contributed greatly to the development of programs and games "Aldostools," and I will forget the late developer "Al Habib," may God have mercy on him. I consider them the greatest professors in hacking, and their favor over us is still great, and their modifications still hold up to this day.

Currently, there is the developer Evilnat, who is taking care of CFW and the HEN team. Why don't you cooperate with each other and unite with new and old developers in order to succeed in running PS3 games on a hacked PS5, and why not even on a hacked PS4? Why not? PS3 games are an ancient legacy and deserve Honesty of support.

As for some hacked PS2 games, some of them do not work on the hacked PS3. Do you know my brother, a developer who is not interested in games, meaning he can modify the files manually? To give you an example: the Tom and Jerry game, the PS2 version, was not running at all on the hacked PS3 until he modified its files and succeeded. In running it, yes indeed there are some football games and game mods that do not work even if they are in PKG, ISO or ISO.BIN.ENC format or even running them from a PS2 emulator on a hacked PS3 but they do not work unfortunately).

My dear brother, I just want your opinion on all of this and nothing else? Sorry for the inappropriate topic for the forum, I just love everyone's opinions.

My greetings to you, my dear brother, only out of my love and interest in everything related to hacked devices.
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Words can't describe how rude your post is.
The PS3 is an incredibly complicated system. Even on PC, the only proper emulator, RPCS3, only reached the point of compatibility with most games just a couple of years ago - and it has high system requirements, probably even higher than a PS4. Emulating a PS3 is so complicated that even Sony can't do it properly, otherwise it wouldn't have had to resort to game streaming.
The only homebrew emulators for the PS3 are for retro systems like the NES / SNES / Mega Drive etc. There are no proper homebrew PS1/PS2 emulators for the PS3, instead we rely on the console's official backwards compatibility. For PS2 games on non-BC models we rely on the emulator used for the "PS2 Classics" games available on the PS3 store. It's not perfect because it was only designed and tested on those specific games. Yes, there are good people who write config files that can make it compatible with more games but if it's not solvable using configs that there's nothing that can be done. The fact that Sony managed to create a PS2 emulator for the PS3, even without 100% compatibility, is a huge feat and there's no way homebrew devs working in their spare time could develop something better.
Also Evilnat and the HEN team do cooperate. Cobra is a joint effort.

And one last thing - NONE of the people here work for you. They are all volunteers and as such they decide what to work on, when and even if. You have NO right to complain. If you want to be able to tell them what to do then first you need to pay their salaries.
 
Mohammed Haouas said:
Currently, there is the developer Evilnat, who is taking care of CFW and the HEN team. Why don't you cooperate with each other and unite with new and old developers in order to succeed in running PS3 games on a hacked PS5, and why not even on a hacked PS4? Why not? PS3 games are an ancient legacy and deserve Honesty of support.
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Unfortunately, the PS3 architecture is too complex to be emulated in hardware like the PS4 or PS5 (not to mention that most of the PS3 games source codes are lost, rendering a port to x86 architecture way too expensive or even impossible).

Even the most powerful gaming PCs have issues running RPCS3 properly, and not all the games are fully supported yet. PS4 and PS5 are cut-down gaming PCs, with lower specs than required for RPCS3.

Another major point for Sony for not implementing emulation is simply business: not only for the huge cost of R&D an emulator, but also the oportunity of reselling old games as new, full price games (like the super ultra rehashed The Last of Us, for example). We've seen this with PS2 Classics on the PS3.

As for the homebrew devs, it's really difficult for them to develop such things without Sony's development kits, tools and KB.
 
Mohammed Haouas said:
Hello,

Dear brother aldostools,

We are in the year 2024 and a new modified update was released for the PS5 device. Just a question that confused me. Why are the developers so far? Why do the developers ignore running PS3 games on the hacked PS4 and PS5? Why this neglect by developers? We know great developers who are credited with hacking all Sony devices: Evilnat, Rebug, Firefox, and Theflow0, and I will not forget you, who contributed greatly to the development of programs and games "Aldostools," and I will forget the late developer "Al Habib," may God have mercy on him. I consider them the greatest professors in hacking, and their favor over us is still great, and their modifications still hold up to this day.

Currently, there is the developer Evilnat, who is taking care of CFW and the HEN team. Why don't you cooperate with each other and unite with new and old developers in order to succeed in running PS3 games on a hacked PS5, and why not even on a hacked PS4? Why not? PS3 games are an ancient legacy and deserve Honesty of support.

As for some hacked PS2 games, some of them do not work on the hacked PS3. Do you know my brother, a developer who is not interested in games, meaning he can modify the files manually? To give you an example: the Tom and Jerry game, the PS2 version, was not running at all on the hacked PS3 until he modified its files and succeeded. In running it, yes indeed there are some football games and game mods that do not work even if they are in PKG, ISO or ISO.BIN.ENC format or even running them from a PS2 emulator on a hacked PS3 but they do not work unfortunately).

My dear brother, I just want your opinion on all of this and nothing else? Sorry for the inappropriate topic for the forum, I just love everyone's opinions.

My greetings to you, my dear brother, only out of my love and interest in everything related to hacked devices.
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Dear @Mohammed Haouas
Think about this: This is a hobby. None of the developers in PS3 (including me) have no obligations to do anything for the scene. Much less if it's another scene. We use our free time to research and create software because we find it fun.

Practically all the developers release their source code for others continue or improve their work. Almost all the developers in PS3 scene work as a team. That's why you see practically the same names in the credits of most of the homebrews, exploits, CFW, etc.

Software development takes time. Developers in the PS scenes have a live and the motivation of each one can be different. So, do not expect to get instant results from a recently hacked system, just because you wish it.
 
Mohammed Haouas said:
Why do the developers ignore running PS3 games on the hacked PS4 and PS5?
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A hacked PS4 can run PS3 games using the RPCS3 emulator under Linux. PS5 was only recently hacked so it only has a few features right now. I am not sure if it will ever run Linux or not.

As @GuilloteTesla says, both the PS4 and PS5 are too different from PS3 for Sony to work on a native emulator. They are similar to each other and this is why PS4 games work on PS5 already. It was only needed to load them and they worked correctly.

The homebrew developers/hackers enjoy the challenge of working on the latest hardware and trying to hack it. For this reason, most of them are working on PS5, but as I said, the hack for it is new. They are working on expanding its features and gaining more access to the low level system.

kadorna2 said:
Not even Sony can do it. Piss off
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So helpful! Do the same...

NiQ said:
Words can't describe how rude your post is.
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I do not see any demands or complaints. Nothing rude at all. He is only asking questions. Perhaps there is a language barrier. Some translation software does not do as well as a human can do. Beyond that, some languages do not have rude words but only rude tones. It is impossible to determine tone of voice from text alone. Some context clue words he uses are "love" and "dear brother". I do not wish to discourage you, only enlighten.

GuilloteTesla said:
Another major point for Sony for not implementing emulation is simply business:
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In addition to what you say, it is also that some games were made by companies that no longer have the rights to the properties used. The games that have been de-listed on PSN (such as TMNT games) and are no longer sold there, were mainly removed for that reason. This limits the number of games available to resell as "PS3 Classics" and makes it even less profitable for Sony.
 
Coro said:
In addition to what you say, it is also that some games were made by companies that no longer have the rights to the properties used. The games that have been de-listed on PSN (such as TMNT games) and are no longer sold there, were mainly removed for that reason. This limits the number of games available to resell as "PS3 Classics" and makes it even less profitable for Sony.
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Even more, some studios were absorbed, dissolved or went bankrupt, with the licences and trademarks buried or lost forever.
 
Coro said:
what do you mean? i thought you only needed an unencrypted ISO (such as produced by multiman) for disc games or rap files for pkg games? what needs to brute forced?
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Don't take it literally, it means ps3 emulation is not as good or easy as simply emulating ps1 games. Ps4 or even ps5 are not fast enough to emulate ps3 games. On the pc side, a very fast cpu is needed to get playable performance. Emulation has only gotten good starting with 12th gen intel cpus. And only those cpus with avx 512 enabled could deliver a stable 30+ fps in games and even 60fps on others
 
GamerAddict said:
Don't take it literally, it means ps3 emulation is not as good or easy as simply emulating ps1 games. Ps4 or even ps5 are not fast enough to emulate ps3 games. On the pc side, a very fast cpu is needed to get playable performance. Emulation has only gotten good starting with 12th gen intel cpus. And only those cpus with avx 512 enabled could deliver a stable 30+ fps in games and even 60fps on others
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okay, i understand. i was confused by your use of the term "brute force". :)
 
aldostools said:
Dear @Mohammed Haouas
Think about this: This is a hobby. None of the developers in PS3 (including me) have no obligations to do anything for the scene. Much less if it's another scene. We use our free time to research and create software because we find it fun.

Practically all the developers release their source code for others continue or improve their work. Almost all the developers in PS3 scene work as a team. That's why you see practically the same names in the credits of most of the homebrews, exploits, CFW, etc.

Software development takes time. Developers in the PS scenes have a live and the motivation of each one can be different. So, do not expect to get instant results from a recently hacked system, just because you wish it.
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Certainly Dear brother, software development does take time, and motivations also play a significant role in all of this. You're right in everything you've mentioned, and I agree with you. Yes, software development is a time-consuming process.
 
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Remaster old titles are far more profitable rather than trying to putting backward compatibility feature. Just take a look at The Last Of Us title, Sony remaster and recycle it to the max!

Heck, Sony had to use their own cloud service just to allow PS3 titles can be run on modern PS5 console. However, it would be not long due to how terribly aging its Sony customized CELL servers.
 
Mohammed Haouas said:
Certainly Dear brother, software development does take time, and motivations also play a significant role in all of this. You're right in everything you've mentioned, and I agree with you. Yes, software development is a time-consuming process.
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Although it's not prohibited in this forum, netiquette guidelines suggest that the use of bold fonts, ALL UPPER CASE, and the color red often convey a tone of anger to your reader. Also the use of italics or cursive fonts makes the text more difficult to read.

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My dear brothers, this is not a complaint (I just talked about the reason why PS3 games do not work on hacked PS4 and PS5 devices, and the honorable brother was happy to discuss with me this is what the matter is, my dear brothers) it was just an opinion and nothing more. You misunderstood my opinion. I did not I mean to offend. The honorable brother understood what I meant. It was just an opinion. My dear brothers, the correct opinion may be misunderstood. I did not offend anyone, and God is a witness to what I say. This is my morals, and the honorable brother understood that. Therefore, I tell you, it was only an opinion and nothing more. I am a fan of this forum and I am an old member. In general, I welcome your opinions, and I respect all developers and consider them as professors.

Regarding the issue of colors, on the contrary, I just choose a color randomly. I may choose red, blue, or another color, but for me it is very normal.

Greetings to all,,
 
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