PS3 PS3 HELP needed please

[white82]

Hello,

i just bought a ps3 fat 80gb CECHL04 Modell! First thing was that ive changed the thermal paste over the CPU and GPU IHS. Only above not under the ihs because i destroyed another ps3 fat days before, because ive scratched the green board where the cpu is. Anyways............

My problem is, that i get 70-74 celsious on CPU and 58-64 celsious on GPU on the XMB menu! Without gaming! Just the XMB.

Therefore i wanted to control the fan manually and installed the HFW 4.84 with usb method:

It worked i hae the REBUG font on my xmb and also do i have the REBUG tools. But if i install the webman pkg, i cant see it in the "list". The collum where the disc icon ect...is. It dosnt show up. Is it because i dont have a "full/real" CFW?

What do i have to do? I mean is it posible to have webman or something simillar so that i can control the fan speed myself? The fan isnt even loud. It only blows so quiet, that i could watch a movie without a problem. That needs to e changed.

I need help please, because i dont want to have YLOD means high tempretures. So therefore im not even gaming or something.

Do i need to be signed in to psn or do i have to enable hen or han or what its called? I remeber i had an exploited ps4 where i had to always go to the webbrowser and start a website to be able to play games ect...........

Thanks for helping out!

Cheers

 

[Naked_Snake1995]

YLOD isn't provoked by high temperatures which destroys the solder-joints, its just a myth that started years ago, without any solid proof, thats another topic, which you shouldn't worry!

Focus on deliding the RSX, its the most sensitive part of the PlayStation3, keeping the paste dry underneath for years, leads to the GPU Chip being damaged with excessive heat, which leads to Graphics Artifacts, the RSX delid its fairly easy to do, the CELL can withstand high temperatures, since its a Server Grade CPU, and one of the most difficult CPUs to delid the IHS off, 99% who try always scratch the CPU mask, which its declaring a dead board.

In all honesty, we discussed and advise to stay away from the L and K models, they are cheaply made, and present more reliability issues, its not a model we advise, but if its your only console, or you are on a strict budget, these models will do just fine, but for extended gameplay sessions its not the best model to own.

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[white82]

YLOD isn't provoked by high temperatures which destroys the solder-joints, its just a myth that started years ago, without any solid proof, thats another topic, which you shouldn't worry!

Focus on deliding the RSX, its the most sensitive part of the PlayStation3, keeping the paste dry underneath for years, leads to the GPU Chip being damaged with excessive heat, which leads to Graphics Artifacts, the RSX delid its fairly easy to do, the CELL can withstand high temperatures, since its a Server Grade CPU, and one of the most difficult CPUs to delid the IHS off, 99% who try always scratch the CPU mask, which its declaring a dead board.

In all honesty, we discussed and advise to stay away from the L and K models, they are cheaply made, and present more reliability issues, its not a model we advise, but if its your only console, or you are on a strict budget, these models will do just fine, but for extended gameplay sessions its not the best model to own.

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Thanks for reply!

Well ive tried to remove the ihs! Scratched the green "board" around the cell. I was so carefull! I started to swet and it took about 20 minutes till i got it off. And when the ihs came o i saw the green board and saw that some of the green was scratched and i knewed im f...up! I also managed to scratch the gpu somehow. Dont know how. On the cell ive used the paint knife method to slowely "cut" the silicon or epoxy thats holding the ihs in place. On the gpu slowely inserted the paint knife and used a flat screw driver to pop the ihs.

Anyways! No mather if its a myth on the soldering point or not......If i can bring down the temprature it will result to run the cup and gpu rn cooler because the faster fan speed. Of corse ihs removal would be the best. But im not risking on damaging this ps3 too.

YOu mentioned the model...............

Which model is the way to go? I wanted the fat version becuse of its design in first place. I use my ps4 for gaming the most. Just wanted to hae this fat and play it rarely. Is there a good bilt fat version?

 

[Naked_Snake1995]

Thanks for reply!

Well ive tried to remove the ihs! Scratched the green "board" around the cell. I was so carefull! I started to swet and it took about 20 minutes till i got it off. And when the ihs came o i saw the green board and saw that some of the green was scratched and i knewed im f...up! I also managed to scratch the gpu somehow. Dont know how. On the cell ive used the paint knife method to slowely "cut" the silicon or epoxy thats holding the ihs in place. On the gpu slowely inserted the paint knife and used a flat screw driver to pop the ihs.

Anyways! No mather if its a myth on the soldering point or not......If i can bring down the temprature it will result to run the cup and gpu rn cooler because the faster fan speed. Of corse ihs removal would be the best. But im not risking on damaging this ps3 too.

YOu mentioned the model...............

Which model is the way to go? I wanted the fat version becuse of its design in first place. I use my ps4 for gaming the most. Just wanted to hae this fat and play it rarely. Is there a good bilt fat version?

I see, well the original PlayStation3 has a gorgeous design indeed,but these L and K models that have the VER-001 boards on it,arent exactly the best in terms of reliability, there is a common issue that plague all the Original models and the 1st Gen Slim,which are some little capacitors known as NEC/TOKIN,which you see paired on the CELL and RSX, these with age and heat, go bad, and 97% its the main cause to the YLOD, reballing and the heatgun simply works,because these capacitors in order to work again, you need to heat them,and i mean a lot,but the RSX its also the culprit, these shady 2006 Nvidia chips, are know to fail in the solder-joints in the substrate and the chip die itself, not to be confused with the solder-joints, reballing only its worth on AMD chips,which were known for theyre bad solder job back in 2006 "i am looking at you ATI Xenos".

Any if the console gets YLOD,chances are you need to replace these NEC/TOKIN capacitors,with Tantalum Capacitors, Sony fixed this issue on the 2100 Series Slim and onward,but the older gen still have these capacitors which fail to feed the RSX, leading to the YLOD, i say RSX,because its the chip that needs more juice,CELL its efficient in his own way, the PlayStation3 isnt the only machine that use these type of capacitors,many TOSHIBA,ACER and other laptops of the era,used the same capacitors,and all resulted in the same problem,but only recently, like 4 years ago, this issue was discovered,and it was under our noses all these years,i knew it from the laptops,but i didnt knew it spread to the PlayStation3 as well.

I mentioned 97% its the cause to the YLOD,but sometimes its beyond than that, ceramic capacitors are also the culprit,bad HDD etc...YLOD isnt a fixed issue,its a general hardware failure,but everyone who works with electronics,knows that these NECs are faulty, so its the plague of all the early models.

 

[white82]

I see, well the original PlayStation3 has a gorgeous design indeed,but these L and K models that have the VER-001 boards on it,arent exactly the best in terms of reliability, there is a common issue that plague all the Original models and the 1st Gen Slim,which are some little capacitors known as NEC/TOKIN,which you see paired on the CELL and RSX, these with age and heat, go bad, and 97% its the main cause to the YLOD, reballing and the heatgun simply works,because these capacitors in order to work again, you need to heat them,and i mean a lot,but the RSX its also the culprit, these shady 2006 Nvidia chips, are know to fail in the solder-joints in the substrate and the chip die itself, not to be confused with the solder-joints, reballing only its worth on AMD chips,which were known for theyre bad solder job back in 2006 "i am looking at you ATI Xenos".

Any if the console gets YLOD,chances are you need to replace these NEC/TOKIN capacitors,with Tantalum Capacitors, Sony fixed this issue on the 2100 Series Slim and onward,but the older gen still have these capacitors which fail to feed the RSX, leading to the YLOD, i say RSX,because its the chip that needs more juice,CELL its efficient in his own way, the PlayStation3 isnt the only machine that use these type of capacitors,many TOSHIBA,ACER and other laptops of the era,used the same capacitors,and all resulted in the same problem,but only recently, like 4 years ago, this issue was discovered,and it was under our noses all these years,i knew it from the laptops,but i didnt knew it spread to the PlayStation3 as well.

I mentioned 97% its the cause to the YLOD,but sometimes its beyond than that, ceramic capacitors are also the culprit,bad HDD etc...YLOD isnt a fixed issue,its a general hardware failure,but everyone who works with electronics,knows that these NECs are faulty, so its the plague of all the early models.

I understand! So basicaly this machine is ment for death right? Its a shame..........

But how is it, that some users have theri playstation 3 for 7-10 years and they run without a problem? I dont get that.
Anyway, i want to bing down the temps! Thats for sure.

Can you tell me if this HEN or HAN tools have a fan control tool? Because if not, i will solder in a potenziometer to control the fan speed manualy. I saw this youtube guys thay have 56-60 celsious when they play gta5 or some intense game. Mine has 74 on XMB menu!!!!!

Cant be.........

Thanks

 

[Naked_Snake1995]

I understand! So basicaly this machine is ment for death right? Its a shame..........

But how is it, that some users have theri playstation 3 for 7-10 years and they run without a problem? I dont get that.
Anyway, i want to bing down the temps! Thats for sure.

Can you tell me if this HEN or HAN tools have a fan control tool? Because if not, i will solder in a potenziometer to control the fan speed manualy. I saw this youtube guys thay have 56-60 celsious when they play gta5 or some intense game. Mine has 74 on XMB menu!!!!!

Cant be.........

Thanks

They don't die once you replace what Sony, put as faulty, which are the NEC/TOKIN capacitors, once you replace those, you are guaranteed to have a system lasting you years.

Maintaining the GPU Chip its a must, every Graphics Card if its badly maintained, it will fail, same with all the 7th and 8th Gen Consoles, that's why Delid on the RSX is highly advised, to avoid these problems in the long run.

Remember these use almost PC like components, in a tiny shell, this isn't a PS1 or a PS2 we are talking about,these units consume as much power as a PC, specially the early units, the cooling system is robust and well made, people simply don't maintain them well as they should, compiled with these fault capacitors its the recipe for disaster.

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