PS3 PS3 overheats immediately

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Joel_

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Hey guys,
I have purchased a PS3 CECHG04 in OVP as a new project for my own collection. Now to my problem. The Ps3 overheats as soon as I press the power button. It stays on for about 10 seconds while the fan turns up to full speed and then it switches off. What could this be? The Syscon error is A0801200. But it switches off too quickly for dry thermal paste under the IHS, doesn't it? Or is it really just dry thermal paste?
 
If you were unaware of the system's problems, I'd return it if possible. My first PS3 was a bc phat. I bought it for like $200 a long time ago, but it apparently had ylod within minutes of being turned on. I returned it and got a slim instead.
 
No, I bought it as defective on purpose. Because it is in the Ps3 Starter Pack OVP with Need for Speed Pro Street and Uncharted as well as a second controller. This OVP is quite rare here. Unfortunately, it was only with the OVP and without the original accessories, but that doesn't matter for now. I just thought I'd buy it as a project for the holidays and try to repair it. I just expected that it might just have a defective laser or at least show a useful Syscon error code like 1002 or 3034 as an example. And that if it can't be repaired I'll at least swap the case with one from my collection so that I have a Ps3 with this OVP. But I can't do anything with this error code because I can't imagine that it only overheats so quickly because of bad thermal paste under the IHS. I mean even without thermal paste between IHS and heat sink it starts and shows a picture.
 
Joel_ said:
No, I bought it as defective on purpose. Because it is in the Ps3 Starter Pack OVP with Need for Speed Pro Street and Uncharted as well as a second controller. This OVP is quite rare here. Unfortunately, it was only with the OVP and without the original accessories, but that doesn't matter for now. I just thought I'd buy it as a project for the holidays and try to repair it. I just expected that it might just have a defective laser or at least show a useful Syscon error code like 1002 or 3034 as an example. And that if it can't be repaired I'll at least swap the case with one from my collection so that I have a Ps3 with this OVP. But I can't do anything with this error code because I can't imagine that it only overheats so quickly because of bad thermal paste under the IHS. I mean even without thermal paste between IHS and heat sink it starts and shows a picture.
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That's the danger of buying a broken console. There's no telling how the system was treated. I'm not really a hardware person when it comes to knowledge, but I'd be afraid that an overheating console might've caused damage to other components.
 
Check thermal paste on the IHS and good contact, if the contact is not good, the Cell will overheat immediately. Yes, it heat up so fast. Also, could it be that there is a problem with the circuit of the thermal monitor? I think we should first check the heat sink and the situation under the IHS.
 
Okay thanks. Then I'll first check whether the heat sink is sitting correctly. If so, I will delid the CELL and hope that it was really just heat and no other defect.
 
I took it apart. It wasn't the heat sink. So I delided it and now it starts up and is nice and quiet. So it was really just dried up thermal paste under the CELL I never thought it would shut down so quickly with old thermal paste as I have often tested the consoles without thermal paste between IHS and heatsink. yes I know it's not good for the console but I only ever had them in this state for a maximum of 5min to test whether they show a picture and then switched them off again and put new thermal paste on them.
 
I have 2 CECHAs (00 and 01) that had this symptom. I turned them on and left them on the XMB, and the fan would stay on full speed for less than 2 minutes. Last month, I DELIDed the CELL and RSX on both devices.
Now both are silent when they are on the XMB. I tested them for over 90 minutes with the PS3 playing MP3 music, and they were silent.
I used different thermal paste on both devices. On the CECHA00 I used Cooler Master Gel Pro v2 and on the CECHA01 I used Implastec TS-COLD (a paste recommended by a friend who used it on the PS4 Pro).
It was only when I started using HEN on both PS3s that I realized that each one behaves differently. The one that uses Cooler Master Gel has the RSX at a temperature equal to or higher than the CELL, but you can see that the fan changes speed when the temperature of both drops. The one that uses Implastec TS-COLD, the RSX, is about 5°C below CELL, but the fan sometimes stays at 80% and cannot lower the temperature.
 
Joel_ said:
I use Arctic MX-4, which keeps my Ps3 and Ps4 consoles nice and cool. Give this one a try.
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I know the MX-4, but since the COVID-19 lockdown its price has become impractical in Brazil, that's when I discovered the Cooler Master Pro Gel, which performs well on the PS4.
The TS-cold is a Brazilian paste and I bought it last month to test it. It has a consistency that resembles the MX-2. I'll do more tests to see if it's really good.
 
LSL said:
I know the MX-4, but since the COVID-19 lockdown its price has become impractical in Brazil, that's when I discovered the Cooler Master Pro Gel, which performs well on the PS4.
The TS-cold is a Brazilian paste and I bought it last month to test it. It has a consistency that resembles the MX-2. I'll do more tests to see if it's really good.
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I recommend a thermal paste with good fluidity. I do not recommend covering the IHS completely with thermal paste. I personally use the 9-point type. They only require a very small amount. Slightly bend the pressure clip and the thermal paste will cover the IHS well and be very thin.
 
NightLess said:
I recommend a thermal paste with good fluidity. I do not recommend covering the IHS completely with thermal paste. I personally use the 9-point type. They only require a very small amount. Slightly bend the pressure clip and the thermal paste will cover the IHS well and be very thin.
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With any thermal paste (MX-2, MX-4, CM Pro Gel, TS-COLD) I apply a very thin layer over the entire upper part of the IHS.
I also apply a thin layer over the entire DIE of the CELL and RSX (including the memory)

Google:

Arctic MX-4 thermal paste has a thermal conductivity of 8.5 W/mK.
Cooler Master MasterGel Pro V2 thermal compound has a thermal conductivity of 9 W/mK
The thermal conductivity of TS-COLD thermal paste is 10.5 W/m.K.

MX-4 and CM Pro Gel V2 have a similar viscosity, while TS-Cold has a similar viscosity to MX-2.
 
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LSL said:
With any thermal paste (MX-2, MX-4, CM Pro Gel, TS-COLD) I apply a very thin layer over the entire upper part of the IHS.
I also apply a thin layer over the entire DIE of the CELL and RSX (including the memory)
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I use MX4 fully covered the IHS, I bent the pressure clips slightly to increase the pressure,their pressure was not enough to flatten the thermal paste, and I don't like the full coverage method for the MX4.

https://www.psx-place.com/threads/has-anybody-discovered-how-to-undervolt-cell-or-rsx.38940/
If you worried about the high temperatures, I recommend check this thread, I did this on my Phats and Slim, on Phats it lower the temperature about 10 degrees, I think this is the ultimate solution to extend the life of the 90nm RSX, it also works great on my Slim 25xx, the RSX is at 67 degrees with the fan at 30%, and the Cell is even lower.
 
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NightLess said:
https://www.psx-place.com/threads/has-anybody-discovered-how-to-undervolt-cell-or-rsx.38940/
If you worried about the high temperatures, I recommend check this thread, I did this on my Phats and Slim, on Phats it lower the temperature about 10 degrees, I think this is the ultimate solution to extend the life of the 90nm RSX, it also works great on my Slim 25xx, the RSX is at 67 degrees with the fan at 30%, and the Cell is even lower.
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It's a good tip, I have a CECHA with error 3004, if I can fix it I'll see how to apply the voltage reduction.
With HEN I configured the fan to leave the CELL and/or RSX at a maximum of 62°C.
 
LSL said:
It's a good tip, I have a CECHA with error 3004, if I can fix it I'll see how to apply the voltage reduction.
With HEN I configured the fan to leave the CELL and/or RSX at a maximum of 62°C.
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3004 should be RSX voltage fault, you can troubleshoot it according to the service manual, 62 degrees max then the fans should speed up to very high? I am sensitive to sound, I don't want them to exceed 30%, I did.Is there any reason why you use HEN on a CFW compatible model?
 
NightLess said:
3004 should be RSX voltage fault, you can troubleshoot it according to the service manual, 62 degrees max then the fans should speed up to very high? I am sensitive to sound, I don't want them to exceed 30%, I did.Is there any reason why you use HEN on a CFW compatible model?
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62°C, fan between 55% and 80%. Depending on what is being executed. The noise is annoying, but I get used to it as the minutes go by.
 
LSL said:
62°C, fan between 55% and 80%. Depending on what is being executed. The noise is annoying, but I get used to it as the minutes go by.
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Welcome to Sony Airline, I have the OG Phat even I Delided it,Fan at 40% 67MAX temp,I can't stand the noise like a plane taking off.
 
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