Trophies earned and sinced with a different PSID.

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Hello. I have this is an important question to me, i registered for this, but because i like the website too. English is not my main language but is good, so, yall will understand and sorry if the post will be a little long, but i wont explain in details, sso, yall can have everything clear to give me the right answer.
I have experience in modding and CFW, i modded my PS3 more then two years ago with CFW hardware, just in case, so, this are my questions:
They banned my first account that i create in 2007 in 2014, because some people reported me after i offended them on Playstation Home after that they was acting not good, then i deleted it and i created a new account that is my main account since 2014. When i make made modded my PS3 in 2017 i was banned on some secondaries accounts and my CID was banned too, but not my main account, because i never used mods, mod menus, nothing not legit on it, it's clear. More then a year ago, a modder in a modding shop extracted a CID IDPS and PSID too from a broken console of mine, it had the YLOD problem. I always played online since 2007, making great scores and everything, because i played offline with my PS2 since 2001 and before with computers and around in the city, then i never liked the PS4, so, i chose to mod my PS3 and buy cheap great games and play earning trophies, until the PS5 would be released, to have some challenge, but i prefer online challenges.

So, i putted the CID on PSPatch to spoof it everytime i needed to sinchronize my trophies, so, i did not used the plugin to spoof it at boot. Since i changed it, more then a year ago, i always earned trophies with my main account that got a PSID different to the PSID on my CID and then i always sinchronized them spoofing the CID, then signing out after that and doing it once every one month and two months, to be safer, plus, i use Ferrox CEX 4.85 Cobra, to be safer. Few months ago i read this on the psx-scene website from a member that answered to another one, but it's an old post of 2013, o 2014, so, maybe, that time was like that and now not:
cid and psid are tied together. all the trophies are tied to console and user(wich is console as well) i dont spoof any of my id's and i have been online and banned only once in 4 years. i just psn patch.
the console id of profile and trophy need to match, so if spoofing everytime then need to be spoofed id.

So, i thought: What he mean? Is it real what he say? I never read about that. Maybe, he mean that PSID of earned trophies must be the same of the one used to sinchronize them? I earned trophies with no CID spoofed at boot, i earned them playing with my main account and the PSID associated to that account, that is different to the PSID that i always used to sinchronize them spoofing the CID with PSPatch and sign in to SEN.

After this thoughts and doubts i stopped to play and to to earn trophies and i'm tired to don't have some fun when i'm back from my job sometime. So, my questions are this:

1: As far as i know the PSID (not the PSNID, not the account id, but the one on my user and account that is showed on PSPatch, the original) is only tied to saves and game licenses, not to the trophies and that the only things tied to the earned trophies are the user id and the account id, in fact, when i open, with the param.sfo editor a param.sfo from a save there is profile 1 and profile 2 (the user id), the account id, the title, attribute and the PSID to view, but if i open a param.sfo from a trophies folder of mine there are all those things to view but not the PSID, so, this can be a proof that, as someone said me, trophies are not tied to the PSID. So, the question is: The earned trophies are tied to the CID, to the IDPS, to the PSID, or only to the User ID and the Console ID?

2: A person in a website wrote me this:
The param.sfo file holds the old psid When you use pspatch to change psid a problem will appear It is a psid mismatch. The new psid must be saved in the param.sfo file in trophies.

Plus, i asked him if on the sony servers my sinced trophies have my original PSID, or the one that i used to sinchronize them and he wrote that the original PSID is on the servers and that the only way to change it on the servers is to resign every already sinced trophy folder with the PSID that i use to sinc the trophies, using bruteforcesavedata (i know how to use it). So, i did it and i resigned my saves too (many) and i activated the PSNPatch plugin to spoof the IDPS and PSID at boot, so, my future trophies will have the same PSID of the one that i will use to sinc them, but i did not put the resigned trophies and saves back on my PS3, because i still to think that all this changes are not necessary. Plus, i know that with PS3trophyisgood i can change timestamps even if not to an older date, but i don't think that i can change the PSID on my sinced trophies on sony servers and that probably there is not even a PSID on my trophies on the sony servers, because PSID is not tied to trophies, plus, i think i will mess everything on my system and on sony servers and i will risk to be banned to putting everything back and resincing again those trophy folders.
So, i really need to do all this, or can i continue to earn trophies with my original IDPS and PSID (the PSID of my main account that is not banned, because my account never been banned and because i read here too that sony don't ban PSID) and then spoof IDPS and PSID with PSNPatch, sign in (clearing history and disabling syscalls before, of course) and sinchronize my future trophies, or i must set the spoof at console boot for my future trophies to have a PSID that will match (but, as i wrote, i think no PSID is on my sinced trophies on sony servers) with no ban risk for a PSID mismatch? I add that since more then a year ago i always earned them without spoof the IDPS and PSID and doing it only to sinchronize them and i never been banned (i know that sony rarely ban for trophies, plus mine was earned legit, but i don't know what is the truth about the mismatching PSID, the trophies tied, linked to the PSID, or IDPS too and what there is on the informations on my sinced trophies on the sony servers), so, if i never been banned can be because the PSID thing is not true and i'm alright doing as i always did, or not?

3: Even in the case where my sinced trophies are really sinced on sony servers with a PSID tied to them, what it is, my original one, or my spoofed one?...and they can be changed on the servers resigning the trophy folders with the PSID that i use to sinc them? I hope not and that there is no need to do it and hat it's all alright, as i always thought in this years.

Sorry again for the long message, i read and know that yall are really experts about modding and PSID and trophies things too (i read many threads here and i say hello to Joonie, Aldos and everyone here!), so, i hope that yall will answer me (even more then only a person, everyone is appreciated, but only the ones that know the thing good) to my two questions claring me everything and writing me what the hell is the truth and i know that yall understood well my doubts and my problem, if there is a problem, because, as i repeat, i think that it's not like that. Thank yall. I hope to have answers soon, i will come back frequently, even because i wont back to finally play and have some relax and fun and earn trophies too, after months that i stopped after i read those things, that maybe are not real.
 
Can someone answer me? Please. It's very important to me, plus we can''t go nowhere in this days in my country because the virus problem, i work and when we come back from work we can't go out, everthing is closed and i would like to play some games and earn trophies when i can't do nothing outside. I forget to add that everytime that i sinchronized my trophies (earned without spoofing my IDPS and PSID, so, with my original PSID and not banned because my main account was never banned and sincing them after spoofing the IDPS and the PSID that is different from the one of my main account of course and that match the IDPS, because as i wrote IDPS and PSID that i use to sinc trophies was extracted from a broken PS3 of mine), i never had errors on sinchronizations, never (i only have errors if i sinc them using the online and offline mode, but that is normal, as yall know, because in those ways sinchronizations allways give errors, they must be sinced pressing X button on the profile, or sinc them comparing them with the ones of a person in the friend list, i use to sinc them pressing X on my profile anyway), no errors and i know what any error mean, so, that is another proof that it's all alright, so, that if i earned it with my not spoofed PSID and sinced them spoofing the PSID with the one in my working CID there is no problem, or ban risk and that PSID count nothing for the trophies, that is not tied, linked to them and that there is no PSID informations on my trophies on the sony servers.
So, i hope it's like that. Plus, it's very important to me, because i wont to transfer and use my main account on the Playstation 5 (i have not the PS4 i never liked it) and i don't want to risk to be banned on the new console and lose all the purchases and money. As i wrote, my main account is clean, i only used mods on secondaries and then banned accounts, in fact my main account is not banned and since 2014. Can yall answer me, please? I still come here, i see that people read my thread but nobody answered yet. Thanks.
 
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User identification of signed accounts with activated console based only on NP Account ID (this is id using in SEN (old PSN) across all Sony consoles). On none activated console and/or not user tied to SEN account is only PSID+user number. Those informations are written in PARAM.SFO and are often protected by PARAM.PFD. This mean that those id decided who is the owner and in what case of, for saves and trophies.
 
Hello. Nice to meet you. Ok, but can you answer me to my three questions? my main account is with activated console, but i need to know if PSID is tied, linked to my earned and sinced trophies, or not, because as i wrote, i earned my many trophies using that account, but i never had the working IDPS and different PSID spoofed at boot, because i always thought that was not a problem for the trophies, so, i always spoofed the IDPS and PSID (that is different to the one on my account) with PSNPatch only before sign in and sinchronize my earned trophies. There is a problem? Because if there it is, everyone that change IDPS and PSID and earn trophies should spoof those ID's at boot before earn trophies, to have the same PSID that they use to sinchronize them, but nobody know this, nobody do it and there is written nowhere, so, everyone of them will risk the ban (i know that sony rarely ban for trophies, but i wont to be sure about my questions because my account is old and clean and i wont transfer it and use it on Playstation 5).
What informations are on sony servers on my sinced trophies? My User id and NP account ID, or the PSID too?...and what PISD? The original one when i earned them, or the spoofed one when i sinced them? If there is my original PSID, i need to resign every already sinced trophy folder to replace it with the different PSID that i use to sinc them? I hope not, i already resigned them all and many folders shows no trophies unlocked when i check them with PS3Trophyisgood, so, i did not put them back on the PS3 and resinc them again. I hope that i can continue to just earn trophies with my original and not banned PSID then sinc them with the different one on my working cid that i use since more then a year ago and as i wrote, i never had errors on sinchronizations. So, can i still to do like that, or i must resign every trophy folder and spoof the cid at boot with the PSNPatch plugin for the future trophies that i will earn?

You wrote: This mean that those id decided who is the owner and in what case of, for saves and trophies.
I don't understood that. What id? The User ID and the NP account ID? The original not spoofed PSID? The spoofed PSID? Wich one? I know and i seen it on the param.sfo too that my saves have my original PSID and the User ID and NP account ID of my main account when i opened it with the param. sfo editor, but on the param.sfo of my trophies there is not the option to see my PSID, just to see my Account ID, title, attribute and profile1 and profile2. So, why there is no PSID, instead on the param.sfo of my saves? Maybe because trophies don't have the PSID tied to them? Maybe, because those trophies was earned with the account with activated console and PSN account? I don't know why, but i tried to resign a trophy folder with bruteforcesavedata and when i click to Verify PDF there is Param.sfo hash OK, User ID hash OK, but even Console ID hash OK too and on bruteforce Console ID means the PSID that i setted on the global.conf of the program togheter with my profile number and my User ID, so, why on the param.sfo of trophy folders there is not the option to see the PSID and on the Verify PDF it's written Console id hash OK (so, my PSID)?

Please, answer to my questions, or i will never have the situation clear and i will still to don't play (i play offline, i stopped online, don't want to be banned anymore, i will back to play online with the PS5, as i did since 2007 until 2014, doing great scores), because i wont earn trophies when i play to have more fun but after i read that message on psx-scene (anyway, is a message of 2014, so, things can be changed) i still to don't know if i can continue to do as i did until now, or if i have to change everything doing all the things that i wrote on this message too. The question is simple, but it seems so complicated because i have all those doubts and i never found no one that answered to me to every doubt on other forums and websites, someone answer to a thing and not to the others, or they don't even understand nothing, so, i registered here hoping to end this frustrant thing, because i know that here are many experts and about trophies and my things too. Sorry for the long messages but it's the only way to write everything, in fact on your reply i found not so much of what i need to know (i say it with respect), just clarify point by point, so, i will be finally sure if i'm alright as i did, or if i will risk and expecially for the PS5 and money for purchases and i have to change the way i use to earn and sinc trophies because, maybe there is a PSID mismatch or something else, or as i think and many said me, nothing wrong on sony servers too. I will like to have answers by you, but by other staff members, or users too, i think aldos, or joonie, or devil, or something else know everything too, but i know that you have knowledge too about trophies, cids, psid too, because i read many times your replies to members, but i never found something to be sure about what i have to do and how the things really work on my questions. Everyone say different things, one day i'm sure that i'm alright and another one i read another thing that destroy what i thought before. So, please, answer me point by point, as soon as yall can, i'm in my house now and outside there is the desert, because the virus, i wont to play some and have some fun, plus i play since early 90's, it's one of my passions. Thank you and yall.
 
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Nice to meet You too.

I already told You how ownership system works. So the conclusions are up to You. If trophies which You earned are earned on tied "console user account" to "SEN user account", then ownership base on NPAID not PSID/IDPS/UN, so they in theory doesn't matter (and I don't know if spoofing anyhow affecting ids of saves and trophy sets data writing when spoof is on, I never use it, never test it, I predicted that this can be troublemaker for me in the future so I'm stay away of it i.e for this reason ;]). For XMB on activated console with SEN accounts, only NPAID matter (which proved trophies transplantation from one PS3 to another, but both accounts and data in trophies using the same NPAID; earning new trophies and XMB displaying are ok, but I never syncing them with Sony servers; however I earned trophies on different IDPS in the past: one for CEX and one for fake DEX, and none of issues I saw, they even syncing with Sony but those earned on debug doesn't count in statistics (which I never care because I'm collecting trophies for myself and making backup on my PC)). What I wanted to say in the first sentence was I don't know the answer for most of Your questions (because I'm using the same SEN account since day1 and never using any spoofs), so I just tell You how it works which allow/help You fit proper conclusions for Your case.

Anyway, in the worst scenario. All trophies (excluding main index) and all saves can be resigned to any of two owner systems. For trophies You are doomed to PC and Flatz Tools but on PS3 there is in development Apollo which save You a lot of headache in that manner.

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What informations are on sony servers on my sinced trophies?
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We don't know but I think those data aren't the same as on our console HDD. The same with saves in the cloud. Meta data are mainly tied to user and/or console so they must keep it in "free" form or keep all keys needed to resign on target platform.

i already resigned them all and many folders shows no trophies unlocked when i check them with PS3Trophyisgood
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I did never use it but I heard that this application doesn't rebuild main index, so after trophies resign, each game must be launch again to add it to the index.

You wrote: This mean that those id decided who is the owner and in what case of, for saves and trophies.
I don't understood that. What id?
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There is two mechanics of ownership, depend on if You have SEN account or not.
  • For activated console and SEN account: NPAID
  • For none activated and without SEN account: PSID+UN+(maybe)IDPS
Everyone say different things, one day i'm sure that i'm alright and another one i read another thing that destroy what i thought before. So, please, answer me point by point, as soon as yall can, i'm in my house now and outside there is the desert, because the virus, i wont to play some and have some fun, plus i play since early 90's, it's one of my passions. Thank you and yall.
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I feel a lot of frustration in You. ^^ Breath. That's for the start. I understand that You (we ;]) are at pressure/stressful life situation and also I know that... no one really care about trophies, and even more, most of peoples today, doesn't even want to know that's kind of stuff. All of this makes this hard to earn needed knowledge. But You know, I'm not a Sphinx with the riddles or oracle, You case is specific, not tested by me and probably anyone else yet. I'm a old player too, and collection trophies and saves for all my consoles, so they are precious for me to.

Maybe @sandungas have some info about it, or maybe I'm wrong somewhere and he can correct it. I just finished all my PS3 games many many years ago, made a backup and using console for other purposes than playing games, so I can forget something.
 
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Hello. Ok, so, everything on my account is tied to NPAID and not PSID. Good. AS i wrote i don't spoof my IDPS and PSID at boot, just because i don't need to do it, my PSID is not banned and i will have future saves with a different PSID on them, so, i would have to resign my older saves, so, as you wrote i'm like you, to don't have future problems, but as you know i spoof them when i sign in to sinchronize trophies and as many people i have to do it, because my original IDPS was banned in 2014, so, if i don't spoof i can't sign in and sinc, but as you wrote my trophies are tied to my NPAID, so, it will remain all the same after that i spoof my IDPS and PSID to sinc them? For what i understood, i think yes, otherwise everyone should stop to earn trophies if they was console banned, if spoofing the CID to sinc them would create problems. Right? In fact i never read about this problem. So, now that you know that my account is with activated PS3 and trophies tied to the NPAID and not PSID, can i continue and start again to play, earn trophies and sinc them after that i spoof with PSNPatch without problems. Right? Only about this i need to be sure now, then i'm done.

Not, i don't need to resign every trophy folder with the informations on the CID that i use to sinc them and resinc them again to change the informations about the ownership on sony servers, because now i know to what they are tied to, they are tied to the NPAID, not to the PSID, so, resign them all with the different PSID but with the same USER ID and Account ID will change nothing. Right?
Why Bruteforcesavedata show Console ID hash file OK, when i resigned a trophy folder to see if PSID was on the trophies param.sfo, if no Console ID (that is the PSID on that program, setted by every user on global conf) is needed for a registrated account and tied to an activated console? Maybe, i think i understood why, by reading your answer, it's a needed thing for who want resign trophy folders for a not activated console, so, PSID is needed for them for the ownership, but not for me. So, it's normal. Right?
Ok, thank you for the detailed answer as i asked to you and to have called @sandungas that i greet, to make him read all and, maybe, making have the things clearer to me and as i wrote, if anyone else know more or can confirm that it's all alright it's appreciated, like @DeViL303 and @Algol that liked your answers and that i greet. As i imaginated i would have the best help on this websites and i was not wrong.

Plus, what about that 2014 message of that psx-scene member to another member? I paste it again here, so, yall don't waste time to go to find it on my first message. It's this: "cid and psid are tied together. all the trophies are tied to console and user(wich is console as well) i dont spoof any of my id's and i have been online and banned only once in 4 years. i just psn patch.
the console id of profile and trophy need to match, so if spoofing everytime then need to be spoofed id."
I never understood that and if it's all true, or something is wrong on it and that message started all my doubts. About the frustration, don't worry i'm a rock, but with this virus, expecially in my country and near to where i live now, is less easier to making all the things that i have to do to change my life situation. I hope who created this will pay so much and burn in hell of course.
 
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As far as I know, banning only means that You loose access to Sony servers for this specific account and/or console. None other consequences, especially in data ownership revoking (like .i.e on X360).

I always using the same NPAID but with two different IDPS (difference is only target ID (CEX vs DEX), but for PS3 it is like completely different). I never even dump PSID so I don't know if it's have any matter. Oh, on both of my PS3, user number is the same (00000001; but I doubt it is matter in this case). I never have problems to sync them on my first PS3 (second was never connected to internet).

I don't using BSD, sorry. I always using Flatz Tools and never mess with trophies (because keys for trophies aren't public at first releases and later I just lost interest in it).

To be honest, I don't like the ids naming. They can be confusing like i.e in this case so let's clear something. Currently:
  • IDPS: unique per mobo key, identify consoles (PS4, PS3, PSP, PSV/PSTV) in Sony network. I don't know what "CID" is referring but probably to this key. Often misleading with PSID.
  • PSID: unique(?) per mobo key. I don't know how is generated but it is written in PARAM.SFO.
  • OpenPSID: unique(?) per mobo key. It is used probably only for system backup protected archives (with IDPS). But I'm not sure if this is true.
  • User Number: Referring to "dev_hdd0/home/xxxxxxxx/".
  • NP Account ID: unique SEN user identification across all Sony consoles. On PSV/PSTV and PS4 called just "Account ID".
 
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Hello @Berion, how are you? I installed the Rebug Lite 4.86 CEX and the new Rebug Toolbox (salute to Joonie) and i had the Ferrox 4.85 CEX before, because i stopped years ago to play online and, as you know, i only log in to sinchronize trophies, then i log out. The Ferrox creators allways said that Ferrox is the cleanest and safest CFW to go online and, now, the new Ferrox 4.86 CEX cobra 8.20 it's been released. I seen on the rebug website that the new Rebug got some new patches, some of them i don't need, but some are new patches for new syscalls numbers, so, maybe it patch new syscalls to be safer online? Because those new patches on those syscalls numbers are not on the new Ferrox, i read and there are no changements on the new Ferrox about new syscalls numbers patched. So:

1: Ferrox it's cleaner and safer then the Rebug DEX, i know, because it's CEX, but having less patches it's even cleaner and safer then the new Rebug Lite CEX version too? If the new patches on syscalls numbers added on Rebug Lite CEX are needed to be safer online and if those are not a problem for a ban risk making me been more exposed to servers controls, more then having the Ferrox that, for what i read, don't have those new syscalls patches, i will still with the Rebug Lite CEX, but if Ferrox is less risky i will put the Ferrox again. I have to chose and i prefer having less things and less risk, then more things and more risks, but, maybe, the new patches on Rebug are not risky and, maybe, are needed to be safer than to don't have them using the new Ferrox. I think you understood.

2: I allways keeped the Rebug Toolbox installed, even when i used Ferrox in the past and i always thought if it's better to delete it, when i'm not on Rebug, or if i can keep it installed, to be safer online. Now i installed the new version of Rebug Toolbox, but, maybe, i will change CFW using the Ferrox, so, it's safer to delete it when i'm not on Rebug (of course checking if the QA flags are enabled before to delete it, i know that, don't worry and it's enabled), or having the Rebug Toolbox can be detectable by S.ny controls (even if i clear history and disable CFW and syscalls), because i think that having less things installed is better to go online. If it's the same i will keep the new Rebug Toolbox, as i did with the older versions, even if i will install a different CFW then the Rebug, if not, i will delete it.

3: Important. So, at the end being my trophies tied to my NPAID, there is no problem if i earn them with the banned cid, then i sinc them spoofing IDPS and PSID that matching and are real from a broken PS3 of mine, as i always did since almost two years, right? I just sinchronized a lot of trophies earned by me few days ago, with games of mine installed (so, no internet trophies folders resigned without no games loaded and installed and no games on main index, so, ban risk. I never do that things and i will never do it, plus i don't care about fake trophy level, differently to this youngers that will be banned using those ways, expecially if they will transfer their account on PS5) and everything been fine, no errors, or problems on sinchronization and i still not banned too, so, good thing, i wont to use my account on PS5, as you know and it's clean. So, no problems, right? They are tied to the NPAID and if i spoof IDPS and PSID to go online there is no changment and no ownership change, right? In fact i still not banned after many sinchronizations and no errors on sinchronizations, since almost two years.

Thank you. Please answer to my three questions, even because, now, i don't know if it's riskier or the same, to stay with Rebug Lite CEX, instead put the new Ferrox that is cleaner about less patches, but if the new syscalls numbers patched make me safer then the Ferrox, i will keep the Rebug Lite CEX. Goodbye. I have the new Apollo Save Tool, thanks to Bucanero. I will install it now and try. I hope it will work good, because the profile id of my secondary account starts
with a lecter and i can't resign nothing for that using Bruteforce Save Data, because the profile id must to start with a number to work, so, i hope i could resign saves for my secondary account with Apollo, without the lecter or number that a profile starts with problem on BSD. Goodbye.
 
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Hi. I'm still alive. :)

Ad1+2. You will never be safe online on any CFW, no matter what. Deal with it. ;) The best approach to connecting to SEN is spoofing IDPS and using account that can be doomed.

Ad3. I don't know. Never test it. I'm not using SEN on PS3 with CFW and when I did, I just used my valid account, cleaned all homebrew and trace, and just sync trophies, download all my games. OFW 3.55. Few years later in second trophy sync, to reduced risk, I was used Dual Firmware which means CFW with only patches allowing me to install any other CFW. Then disconnected forever.

In theory, yes. NPAID will stay as is, and IDPS+PSID doesn't matter on "activated accounts".
 
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Hi. I'm still alive. :)

Ad1+2. You will never be safe online on any CFW, no matter what. Deal with it. ;) The best approach to connecting to SEN is spoofing IDPS and using account that can be doomed.

Ad3. I don't know. Never test it. I'm not using SEN on PS3 with CFW and when I did, I just used my valid account, cleaned all homebrew and trace, and just sync trophies, download all my games. OFW 3.55. Few years later in second trophy sync, to reduced risk, I was used Dual Firmware which means CFW with only patches allowing me to install any other CFW. Then disconnected forever.

In theory, yes. NPAID will stay as is, and IDPS+PSID doesn't matter on "activated accounts".
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Hi. Here is crazy, ugly, anyway. Still more then 600 deaths everyday and it's not U.S.A. or a giant country. Maybe, you know. Time will tell the truth (that people like me, already know, anyway), then they will pay a lot.

Yes, @Berion, i know those point 1 and point 2 things, just to make you know me well, i have enough experience, not on developments and things like that, but on everything about PS3 CFW, homebrews, protections, conversions, modding and much more, i'm not a new one with HEN, i have CFW hardware since three years ago, and with "online", i only mean to sinc trophies, as i said i stopped to play online, or use mods, or modding, since two years ago, after some banned account and console, so, the risk to sinc with protections, on CEX too and log out is very low, then i will deactivate the account once i will transfer it on the PS5.

You have not answered to my two questions about the better safe using the Rebug Lite CEX 4.86 or the Ferrox CEX 4.86, about the new added patches to new syscalls numbers to the Rebug (if it's better to have them and those don't increase the ban risk and are not detectable, or the Ferrox that do not have those added patches, that you can know going on rebug website) and to the Rebug Toolbox question. I will like to know if i can keep it without detection problem using a no Rebug CFW as i always did for example used the old Ferrox but keeping the old Rebug Toolbox installed, or if it's better delete it if i don't use Rebug, to be safer, in that case i will delete the new version of it. About the trophies questions, i think, now there is no more problem, or question to do, it's all ok, NPAID on trophies, no original banned PSID on there and i can sinc them spoofing IDPS and PSID as i always did without changements on trophies informations. So, thank you to have me explained that and confirmed that i always was alright to sinc them spoofing CID with the working one, because the only thing tied is the NPAID and it's logical too, but this new youngs always wrote different things on websites confusing me. They only know how to put mod menus and gta gta and gta, this new generations of "gamers" and "Pro players", haha... You know? Can't wait to come back to destroy them on PS5. Real fun, i hope to find people with our age yet there, anyway, i'm not old yet, an adult boy. So, can you answer me to those two questions, simply read the originals on the previous message.

I have questions in my mind since the use of second hand games bought, or that friends gave me and few games played on friends PS3 in the past where i earned some trophy, already sinchronized since two years and never banned. I still to don't know how it works with the $.ny rules about that, but i don't want to make you use much time now, so, i will ask those simply questions in the next message. I know that is off topic, but those are just few quick things to ask and to answer and that nobody cares, so, i think it will be better to don't open a new thread only for that. Stay good. Goodbye man. See ya, maybe tomorrow, then i will have everything clear. I start now to install the Apollo Save Tool and i try it. I think Bucanero did good on it.
 
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For now is quite ok where I living but most of us are in lockdown state. We don't know how many are sick and how much deaths by COVID because we don't doing many tests and deaths are mostly not reported as COVID but other cause (to keep low statistics maybe...). I was sick "for something" but currently recovered. ^^

I didn't answer to first questions because I don't know the answers. :)

There is no such thing as "Rebug DEX". There is Rebug D-Rex which is DEX fw, Rebug DECR which is DECR fw, Rebug Rex which is CEX fw and Rebug Lite which also CEX fw. On DEX firmwares You can choosing network type. I don't see how one CFW could be safer connecting to SEN than other. The only real less risking CFW is Dual Firmware which is hard to even call CFW, as it has only few patches allowing to install any fw but You will not find any for current versions, especially when HFW+ps3exploit is on the wild. I'm a fan of Rebug, using them since 3.55, so I favouring this CFW. ^^

Yeah, newer generations are not interesting in scene more than pirating games and mods for Call of Duty or GTA. To be honest, scene is in agony state. It turned to tight circle of kernel hackers, programmers, scene popularizers and contributors. Everything which is not directly related to games is barely used by others.

Instead of syncing, maybe it will be interesting for You our project:
https://www.psx-place.com/threads/trophy-shelf.28854/
 
Berion said:
For now is quite ok where I living but most of us are in lockdown state. We don't know how many are sick and how much deaths by COVID because we don't doing many tests and deaths are mostly not reported as COVID but other cause (to keep low statistics maybe...). I was sick "for something" but currently recovered. ^^

I didn't answer to first questions because I don't know the answers. :)

There is no such thing as "Rebug DEX". There is Rebug D-Rex which is DEX fw, Rebug DECR which is DECR fw, Rebug Rex which is CEX fw and Rebug Lite which also CEX fw. On DEX firmwares You can choosing network type. I don't see how one CFW could be safer connecting to SEN than other. The only real less risking CFW is Dual Firmware which is hard to even call CFW, as it has only few patches allowing to install any fw but You will not find any for current versions, especially when HFW+ps3exploit is on the wild. I'm a fan of Rebug, using them since 3.55, so I favouring this CFW. ^^

Yeah, newer generations are not interesting in scene more than pirating games and mods for Call of Duty or GTA. To be honest, scene is in agony state. It turned to tight circle of kernel hackers, programmers, scene popularizers and contributors. Everything which is not directly related to games is barely used by others.

Instead of syncing, maybe it will be interesting for You our project:
https://www.psx-place.com/threads/trophy-shelf.28854/
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Hello Berion, how are you? Here the situation becoming much better, from red zone (the first one of the six different danger colors), to light yellow zone (the fifth one of the six ones), in only one month, while the others three red zones still red and one of them is close to where i am at. So, where i am we did a great thing, acting better then the others regions of the nation, going from red to light yellow and, maybe, white (the safe zone color) after a month. In the other red regions people not followed the rules, it's full of ritch ugly people that don't care about it and go everywhere and work 30 hours for day because they are money hungry, so, there still red and they complain too about it... What a brainless people. If the virus will continue for much time it will be their fault too, the same system slaves people... everywhere, sadly, they will never change. It's not my problem anyway, real people still the best, they are useless sheeps.

First i installed Apollo Save Tool and it's amazing, thanks to @bucanero, i was able to resign some saves that don't worked with Bruteforce save data, for example, i resigned all my GTA5 saves for my second account using Apollo and they finally worked, without corruptions, or errors, differently to when i resigned them with BFSD, so, i think Apollo have more new games id keys inside and i hope it have a lot more then BFSD, so, i could resign every game save and unlock copy protection work very good too, but firstly i say compliments to you Berion, for the GUI design! I read your name there and i was happy, because, now, i know you a little bit. he GUI is the best and simple to navigate of every tool that i have. Great job man. Continue to update Apollo with better things, that Tool is one of the best and useful!

Now, i have those off quick and simpleoff topic questions to ask, as i wrote the other time and i will like if you will answer one by one, then i'm done on this thread (and o like the way you act answering, not complaining as o n some wack people on another website that answered many times like this "Your message is too long and difficult to read and remember things, so, i don't answer until you write less", but i had to write much because all this things that i wrote here and you answered with no lazy people problems, but they are the worse people that i meet on a forum and they are much knowed too, you gave me the answeres and solved my doubts, so, you and yall here are the best as i imaginated before register. Congratulations for the app for the offline trophies, i aready seen that last time, but i want my trophies on my online account, because, if you remember, i will use it on Playstation 5 and i can't spend many hours to earn trophies without having them on my account, so, if i use my free hours to earn a long, or difficult trophy, i want it to see it on PS5 too and people that can see it, even if i don't care much about trophies as i wrote, i start taking them because i don't liked and don't bought the PS4 because as you wrote on the trophy app, I too, considering trophy system as enlarging for gameplay, but my better satisfactions are playing great online with people. I always thought to install a dual boot firmware, but i always thought "It will work good?", "It will cause some problems to my console?", but i see the new 4.86 dual boot one, i read that it works good and i think i will install it, to be safer to sinc throphies OFW, then go back to CFW. I hope i will go everything alright to play games fine and to my console. So, thanks for the links too.

Two very important questions, because PS5 time is near:

1: When i will buy the PS5, i will transfer my main account there (it's clean, no problems), then i will stop to earn trophies on PS3 and to sinc them log in on SEN to don't risk an account ban on PS5, so, i will deactivate it from my PS3 on the account settings options and i will never turn on the internet connection too, only to update games if there is the need. I had many games saves on my main user tied to my main account and the offline trophies list that i will like to keep to my PS3 as a remembrance of those times , so, i don't want
to delete evrything completely, i want keep the user with saves to play (without resign everything and some game saves can't even be resigned because there are no id keys (but i hope in Apollo to have more keys as it did with GTA5 saves) every game there and only deactivate my online account. It's only needed to deactivate it to be safe and never be banned on PS5 only if i deactivate it from the PS3, or i have to delete the user too? On a famous website, they answered me like this: You can keep the user with the online account tied , if you deactivate the online account S.ny will never see that your account is in a CFW PS3 after you deactivate it. So, it's like that Berion,? Can i keep the user with saves and all, with never log in no more on SEN and deactivating my main online account and S.ny can never see that the online account is on a CFW PS3, or not? If they, in the future too, can see it, even if it's deactivated, because i did not deleted the user, i will deactivate it and delete the user too and resign every save for the second account, but as they said, i think there is no need and it's safe doing what i wrote and never log in on SEN.

2: When it will be deactivated, if will need to turn on the internet connection to update some game, it will make S.ny see that there is my PS3 deactivated account that it will be on PS5, or once that i deactive the account, it can't be seen if i turn on internet connections and do some game update using the user tied to my deactivated account? Because i know that there are some urls to block with Charles, or a peoxy, to be safer when someone turn on the internet connection on PS3, that S.ny use to see if someone is on CFW, but if my online account will be deactivated, they can see that is tied and on that user and ban me on PS5, or they can see that that user is on a CFW PS3, but they can't see that it has my online account tied, because i deactivated? So, it would not be tied no more to the user once that i will deactivete, or not?

Simply questions about use of games and earn trophies without games property problems. I will like to know it to be not worried about this things that are the only ones that made me have doubts about my clean, or not clean account.

3: Sometime i earned trophies playing with original games on disc that friends gave me, then i gave back to them, so i did not bought them.
(I can sound like a noob, but i already know things, is that i'm a person that wont exclude every little doubts, to have no problems and here is the best place to ask about this games doubts).
So, it's legit to play and earn trophies with a game that a friend lent me, or not? I think yes.
Many people on trophies websites writing that they played and platinum games that friends gave to them, others games that played on friends house putting their account on friends consoles and earning PS Store games trophies and DLC trophies and they say it as if it's normal and legit and i think it is. I know that game sharing it's not legit on PS3 and i never did it, but for the other things i think there is no problem.

4: Same thing but in this case, sometime, friends had some PS Store games, the small cheap ones without platinum trophy (i'm not ritch, pretty poor, even now, i bought many games in the past for PC, PS2 and PS3, but now i can't buy like that, just one new, or few second hand games for now) and i liked them, so, i putted my main account on their consoles, i played (sometims when a friend was working, for example) and i earned trophies, then i always deleted the user with my account tied to it.
So, it's legit do earn trophies playing to friends PS Store games, with their PS3 putting my account there? I think yes.

5: Same thing, but this time is about some trophies that i earned play with DLC's on friends PS3 (sometime we bought DLC's paying half me and half them, they bought them installed and i played them go to their houses putting my online account on their PS3), i never pirated any DLC, i let games not completed at 100% if i don't like, or don't want to buy a DLC and i'm happy for the platinum, the platinum counts more, 100% is for people that have much money, so, it's not about abilities, (you know?) and never pirated PS Store games, i have no fake licenses, pkg, or rap files on my account, my DLC and exdata folders are empty, just to be clear, in fact i never was banned since 2013, when i deleted my 2006 main account that i used only to play a lot online, to change nickname for the PS4, that i never bought, haha, but i will put it on the PS5 now.
So, it's legit to play with DLC on a friend console with my account on it? I think yes on this too.

6: it's legit to buy and sell second hands games, play them and earn trophies with them? I just bought four second hand games last month (as i did many times in the past) and i'm playing two of them and earning trophies, It's legit for S.ny rules to do that? I know that there is wrote on games that games can't be leant and sold, but everyone buy them and sell them and on famous websites, like ebay and even on amazon now and trophies hunters doing that too on famous trophies websites. So, can i buy or sell second hand games and earn trophies on those games? I think yes.

Now, you know better then me this things, even if sounds stupid questions, i wanted know precisely to have no problems in cases when, for example, i will say: "I earned those DLC trophies because a friend of mine let me play with the DLC on his console with my account on it and we bought the DLC paying it half me and half he", or: "I played the DLC of a friend of mine that he bought". Same answers for the few PS Store games where i earned trophies. Sorry for the time to read everything, but i'm done and those are simply questions, expecially for you. Thank you and please answer by questions numbers, i need them all answered, then i will not continue on this thread and i will had the best help around the internet. Goodbye, do your things and thanks again, see you next times. You seems nice, maybe we could be nice friends in this world. Now, let's keep to DESTROY that virus and who created it too (they say no one created it, not evern China laboratories, but people like me don't believe to their lies, anyway, maybe it's true, time will tell it). Yeh.
What tha f... i wrote a book here. Maybe, if i sell it, i can make some money. Ha ha. Bye.
 
Ad1. You can retrieve keys Yourself. It is called Secure File ID (Disc Hash Key is not needed) and such dumping tools is currently part of custom xai plugin (but I could be wrong) in CFW Tools (a XMB mod). Procedure looks like this: You putting original disc game in drive, choose option, run game, using saving in game, quiting game and looking into log file created by this module (don't remember where). Then update games.conf (or whatever Apollo using) on PC and transfer back to the console.

Deactivate on PC. Log-in into SEN account on Sony website and choose option to deactivate consoles (all at once, You cannot choose single one so do this before You setup PS5). It can be perform once per half year. But of course You can also doing that on PS3 but I don't know if in that case NP Account ID will be cleared (which means loosing ownership for SD/TRP/digital games).

If You delete user, You delete all his saves, trophies etc. All data which is inside deleting user folder.

It is probably not true that if You deactivate account on PS3 Sony will never knew that this console was hacked because I believe (no proof), they logging many stuff and keep it forever. However, they don't banning for it as I'm still not banned for my stealthy PS3 and high no-stealthy PSTV synced trophies. Currently I have deactivated those consoles and using my account daily on PS4. Activated consoles list is not any kind of privacy functionality for You but Sony tool or them to limit You possible SEN account sharing across different consoles (kind of damage control to be protecting business from clients who buying games in few peoples, for various of reasons). ;) But whatever truth is, it should be safer to just cut from hacked consoles and that's why I did this in the first place.

Ad2. I don't remember if PS3 connecting to their servers in other purpose than checking fw available version or game updates on demand. For sure You will not be able log-in as user there blindly (turn off auto login BTW). You can still log-in and You will be ask if activate this console (I'm not sure about this, many years have passed).

Ad3/4/5/6. Renting games and sharing accounts it is not a crime. That is one of the reasons why we are limited by only two consoles activated per platform per account (in the past was 5). It is completely normal for human to share with other human his goods, but of course this can be abused and there are peoples who buying i.e game and selling access to account with it. But Sony cannot do nothing against it without limiting more our right to be an owner. So currently they only limiting activated consoles at once.

Ad. GUI. Thanks. ^^

Ad. virus. Thanks, I'm fine.

It is impossible to proof that it was hand created. Personally I believe it was and escaped from their labs because of two things: there is illegal market of lab animals selling for street foods in China (Jesus Christ!), and there is custom to eat animals raw. But it is only a speculation and it could be a natural virus transmission from animals; we will never know the truth because it is impossible to uncover it. What politicians says doesn't matter, it is just occasion to slow down China economy, especially for dying European economy and USA economy which loosing market domination from year to year.

Just like it is impossible to destroy that virus. It will stay with us forever. The reason why creating quarantine zones and by that limiting it's spread is to safe social systems and especially health care systems. But it should be clear to all that this virus will kill most of biological unfit peoples no matter what, just like every other viruses. It is sad truth but we must face the reality and keep going though life whatever this life brings to us. Flu is with us since Spain Flu and still mutating and still killing every year but of course it is not so danger like whole coronavirus family (not only SARS2-ncov) mainly because it have not so long incubation period, don't attacking neuro system and all generations which survived already developed good immunology mechanisms against such type of viruses. "Herd immune" whatever it sounds cruel it is the normal way to put out epidemic (we don't have technology to limit it by "cure"; we never before develop even vaccine for any ncov).

Wish You luck with saves, trophies and health. ^^
 
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