PS3 [UPDATE: October 06th, '20] HW Acceleration (RSX) Project Update by @ReneRebeTM

No0bZiLLa · Jun 27, 2020

I have to admit, i dont have two hours to sit and watch it. is there a summary on this latest update?

STLcardsWS · Jun 28, 2020

No0bZiLLa said:
I have to admit, i dont have two hours to sit and watch it. is there a summary on this latest update?

The project is great and i hope it keeps maturing. As we have witnessed

However, The developer really needs to do a short status of project type of summary as there is Not one i am aware of to answer your question. Text would be best, but even a text with a short video every once in awhile.

Its more of a development journey and that is great and can be interesting to see but its making some of the important facts and details harder to put in the forefront and everyone have a clear understanding of the mission and status of the project and where it stands.

Roxanne · Jun 28, 2020

Another Livestream

el Bundinio · Jul 5, 2020

I have a CHECH25 PS3 with the latest CEX Rebug and I'd like to be able to boot into t3 linux.

Are these instructions

http://jk.ozlabs.org/projects/petitboot/

valid for me or do they assume a console from before the ps3 linux removal event?

Is it possible to use petitboot to boot from USB or DVD via Rebug somehow?

If not will it be necessary for me to remove and backup the PS3 drive before flashing petitboot?

If so can I use standard tools like Minitool Partition Wizard to clone the smaller drive to a larger one and expand the partition to the available space?

A million years ago when trees and birds still existed there were rom chip switching devices for our computers and our LEGAL gameboy carts. Does any such thing exist for the PS3? Does the PS3 have a rom chip other than the NOR-in-my-case chip or is that all inside the Cell CPU? I've seen a delid cell cpu and there's nothing in there that isn't on die.

el Bundinio · Jul 22, 2020

I installed Red Ribbon to start, as per the intructions elsewhere on this forum and the petitboot in the T2 installer works on my monitor if I change the

video=ps3fb:mode:13

to

video=ps3fb:mode:133

I found that 133 number in the Red Ribbon install, I don't know where they got it from.

So I have t2 and X running on my ps3 but it only shows loopback network interface. I'm not a sysadmin, let alone a programmer and I'm more familiar with BSD dmesg than linux dmesg but I didn't see anything in there about the network interfaces.

I imagine that I'll figure it out eventually but if someone could point me to the appropriate bits & more video or documentation I'd appreciate it, thanks.

I installed Bunsenlabs Lithium RC on an Oracle VM, because I've used #! in the past and it used very little RAM so I wanted to see how much RAM its spiritual descendant is using in 2020 and the installer required 1G somehow but once installed it runs on 256mb.

Crunchbang Screenshot

I listed the packages

thinking that I would start trying to compile them on the PS3 but I can't find a network interface I could try cross compiling from windows VM if someone can please point me to the appropriate Bits & More video about cross compiling that'd be awesome, thanks.

el Bundinio · Jul 23, 2020

it turns out that NICs are configured via "stone" and setting to dhcp is super simple.

I can now, after creating a non-root user, ssh into t2 linux on the ps3 from putty on windows and am starting to feel more at home.

now to try to compile stuff for ps3 linux.

el Bundinio · Jul 28, 2020

"The Cell architecture... prioritizes bandwidth over low latency,"

Again, I'm no programmer but this is equivalent to saying that it penalises branching?

Is it fair to assume that the Cell BE was basically a way for the US Government to offload the cost of a very specific nuclear simulation algo, or in other words part of the cost of maintenance of the nuclear arsenal to taxpayers by other routes,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Nuclear_Security_Administration

who ran Roadrunner

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadrunner_(supercomputer)

from tax payers to console gamers via Peter Hofstee

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hofstee

I actually don't care about any of that, the only thing I care about is whether or not the ISA of the SPU / SPE and the Nvidia RSX is publicly available. The reason being is that I believe that eventually AI will take over compiler optimisations, which are often general open ended questions, whereas, in the case of x265, you have 3 known ISAs, a dataset and a result that can be arrived at by other means, A B C, is it possible to get from A to C within the time constraints of the format (<60fps, usually) via B (all the instructions available in the silicon(s(SPU/SPE/RSX))

That seems like a valid question to me but I'm not qualified to judge. Hopefully someone here is.

Roxanne · Oct 6, 2020

Naxil · Oct 7, 2020

Hi. What linux distro works on ps3? Without rsx acelleration we cant see video or use some emulator? We can have some like xell on 360?

Neal Cullum · Oct 15, 2020

sandungas · Oct 16, 2020

Can someone write a resume about the progress in a peasant-readable format ?

Neal Cullum · Oct 17, 2020

Naxil · Oct 18, 2020

The problem is the low ram on ps3... I have a eepc with 1gb ram and 5 years ago with light linux distro worked good (browser video ecc). Today with new kernel puppy linux is slow with 1gb of ram...so can new Firefox works with 512mb of ram with rsx accelleration?

sandungas · Oct 18, 2020

Naxil said:
The problem is the low ram on ps3... I have a eepc with 1gb ram and 5 years ago with light linux distro worked good (browser video ecc). Today with new kernel puppy linux is slow with 1gb of ram...so can new Firefox works with 512mb of ram with rsx accelleration?

I have an Asus Eeepc 900HA (and i still love it, that little thing is so cute, lol)
I have not used since many time ago, but i had a multiboot setup based on grub1 and isolinux with windows XP, debian, puppy, and more entries to boot other operative systems from the SD card reader
For me it was really a toy to play around with operative systems

Can you tell me which puppy are you using nowadays ?, the best one i remember to use was the "pupeee" made by jemimah but she abandoned it at some point :/

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Btw, you should really consider in upgrading the RAM from the factory 1GB to 2GB (as far i remember 2GB is the max allowed in my model)
I never cared much about upgrading ram because is just a toy for me (i never used it for demanding tasks anyway), but at some point i was lucky to get my hands on a broken laptop that had 2gb ram modules compatibles with my eeepc 900HA and i can tell you the difference in performance is very notable
Is pretty much because 1GB is a bottleneck (even for windows XP), if you remove the bottleneck everything works more fluid

Naxil · Oct 19, 2020

sandungas said:
I have an Asus Eeepc 900HA (and i still love it, that little thing is so cute, lol)
I have not used since many time ago, but i had a multiboot setup based on grub1 and isolinux with windows XP, debian, puppy, and more entries to boot other operative systems from the SD card reader
For me it was really a toy to play around with operative systems

Can you tell me which puppy are you using nowadays ?, the best one i remember to use was the "pupeee" made by jemimah but she abandoned it at some point :/

---------
Btw, you should really consider in upgrading the RAM from the factory 1GB to 2GB (as far i remember 2GB is the max allowed in my model)
I never cared much about upgrading ram because is just a toy for me (i never used it for demanding tasks anyway), but at some point i was lucky to get my hands on a broken laptop that had 2gb ram modules compatibles with my eeepc 900HA and i can tell you the difference in performance is very notable
Is pretty much because 1GB is a bottleneck (even for windows XP), if you remove the bottleneck everything works more fluid

Yes sure.. Probably with 2gb works better... But today webbrowser not work very well with 1gb of ram. Is mandatory with my eeepc use external mediaplayer (cli or gui) for youtube (directly on browser not work)... I want know how linux ps3 works and what distro is?

sandungas · Oct 19, 2020

Naxil said:
Yes sure.. Probably with 2gb works better... But today webbrowser not work very well with 1gb of ram. Is mandatory with my eeepc use external mediaplayer (cli or gui) for youtube (directly on browser not work)... I want know how linux ps3 works and what distro is?

Rene rebe (who is making this videos) is one of the mantainers of a linux distro named T2
The funny thing for me... is some versions of puppy linux was build on T2 too

T2 is intended to be used in "embedded systems" (where all the code is compiled for an specific device) and you know some puppy versions (wary and racy) had an awesome performance... because was built from T2

The "puppeee linux" (for the asus eeepc series) made by jemimah was built on top of wary as far i remember, so in some way it was a pure T2 built (but highly customized)
As far i know doesnt exists any puppy linux for PS3, but the original T2 is still mantained
I really think this is the best performance we can squeeze from a PS3, personally i been using wary, racy, and puppeee and i can tell the performace improvements are very notable

http://puppylinux.com/history.html

Wary Puppy was built from self-compiled T2 packages
Racy Puppy was built from self-compiled T2 packages; which were the same core packages that were used to build Wary Puppy.

http://wikka.puppylinux.com/Woof

Supported distributions and Architectures
The Linux distributions that Woof can use as the foundation for a Puppy Linux distribution include: Debian, Ubuntu, Slackware, Arch, T2, SDE, Puppy, Mageia.

http://puppylinux.com/family-tree.html

Fabri15544 · Oct 28, 2020

How does t2 install on ps3 or should I update it on a pre-installed linux?

sandungas · Oct 29, 2020

Fabri15544 said:
How does t2 install on ps3 or should I update it on a pre-installed linux?

The T2 PS3 version is dependant of this web http://t2sde.org/hardware/console/Sony/PS3/
Im taking a look at it and i cant find links to the pre-built PS3 ISO's... i remember rene posted the links to a couple of them in his youtube channel at some point though, by now that pre-built T2 PS3 ISO's should be considered experimental but if you decide to try them you really should try the latest available, just incase there are some small improvements related with the video driver

Dont expect to have a fancy desktop with the default install btw, is a base system, but ready to be customized
In my oppinion the nice way to customize it would be by making a selection of the software that fits with a PS3 (emulators, multimedia, network, file transfers, and a nice theme inspired in sony/PS3)... and remove the software that doesnt makes much sense in a PS3 (office apps, printer drivers, etc...) + the tools related with PS3 software hacking (not included in T2 repositories)... that would make a nice distro but someone needs to start building all this and release a pre-built ISO with it

The installation preparation is the same when you install PS3 red ribbon, the only thing that changes is when you select the ISO to boot... then follow the setup of T2 installer
http://t2sde.org/documentation/installintro.html

Coro · Oct 29, 2020

sandungas said:
The T2 PS3 version is dependant of this web http://t2sde.org/hardware/console/Sony/PS3/
Im taking a look at it and i cant find links to the pre-built PS3 ISO's... i remember rene posted the links to a couple of them in his youtube channel at some point though, by now that pre-built T2 PS3 ISO's should be considered experimental but if you decide to try them you really should try the latest available, just incase there are some small improvements related with the video driver

Dont expect to have a fancy desktop with the default install btw, is a base system, but ready to be customized
In my oppinion the nice way to customize it would be by making a selection of the software that fits with a PS3 (emulators, multimedia, network, file transfers, and a nice theme inspired in sony/PS3)... and remove the software that doesnt makes much sense in a PS3 (office apps, printer drivers, etc...) + the tools related with PS3 software hacking (not included in T2 repositories)... that would make a nice distro but someone needs to start building all this and release a pre-built ISO with it

The installation preparation is the same when you install PS3 red ribbon, the only thing that changes is when you select the ISO to boot... then follow the setup of T2 installer
http://t2sde.org/documentation/installintro.html

i think this is latest build for ps3 (sha file here). it is from late april.

sandungas · Oct 29, 2020

Coro said:
i think this is latest build for ps3 (sha file here). it is from late april.

It seems, but when i was looking at them i was not so sure, as far i remember the iso's he posted in the youtube videos didnt have a name so clean... i think he was adding a suffix with "ps3" or "test" or things like that indicating that it was a work in progress
Not sure, maybe i remember wrong

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