PS3 Whats the true compability for faster HDs on the PS3?

[Kevin8082]

One case (slower HDD) with the fan NOT ramping up because of the overload of the console, one case (faster HDD) with the fan ramping up because of the overload of the console.

Trully a well done experiment in a controled environment.



I repeat: if you still want to believe that your sound issues are related to the HDD speeds, be my guest. You wanted help but don't like the answers provided.

Because neither your answer of berion's answer are proper answers to the problem, its simple as that, as someone else noted the game does have a problem but ftom experience(which is getting ignored for cherry picking) it does works fine on a 5400RPM with the same game dump, so both the game and HD RPM are making it problematic for those games that I mentioned.

if you do not change the contents of the hdd in between, yes, the partition should be encrypted same, cause of using same keys over and over again. thus it is possible, to just overwrite vflash/devflash partition on hdd, and just force a fw reinstall instead of loosing hdd contents.

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from a maintenance point of view pretty useful and ease to recover, but from a security point of view completely useless as I see it

Yeah it was the same files, I had problems transfering the profile between HDs and thought the PS3 would clean it properly but that weirdness happened so I had to wipe the HD on my PC

 

[Berion]

Look up Zero Fill, that should answer your doubt on whats has been done.
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Generic answer 101 I guess, specially that I gave the scenarios that I tested and found issues, and considering that trying it for yourself would help me out to find out where the fault lies(specially that ussually I take a "dev" with higher regards) I guess I will stay with the 5400RPM HD since it seems that nobody here got the good will of helping someone

Full format is the same as zero fill, except adding pt and fs tables. For PS3 is the same because anything else than her logic structure she find on HDD is unknown, like all zeroes, all ones, whatever pattern...

You are damn arrogance. And that's second time, in some old thread You also forcing on other people confirmation of Your claims and couldn't accept that Your conclusions was wrong (and possibly again are wrong in this thread), came from wrong interpretation. So good luck then with such attitude...

 

[Berion]

hm, I also have to disagree here. the hdd encryption is somehow messed up, imo. since it is per sector encrypted, there is possibility, you will end up with same encryption as before on same files, if hdd was already used on same PS3. I think 3141card or glevand have said sth similar along the lines

During formatting, PS3 overwriting partition table and all filesystem tables. Nothing is interpreting and eventually adopting. I'm pretty sure because trying recovering data in standard way than by signature scans, and all backup tables/nodes are clean (at least on FAT16 and UFS2 partitions, never touched FAT32 and raw partitions, because nothing interesting is there from user data point of view).

Encryption per sector only means that each is encrypted alone (some even twice on NOR models), and PS3 during quick format only encrypting those which are in use. And since this key(s) [ATA Key and eventually VFLASH Key] never change on specific unit, it always be the same, encrypting/decrypting all sectors in the same way.

 

[Kevin8082]

You also forcing on other people confirmation of Your claims and couldn't accept that Your conclusions was wrong

Sorry are you talking about me or yourself?

You keep bitching because what you are saying isnt whats happening in the real world other than inside of your head, you keep coming with all this technical jargon to make it seem like you know perfectly whats happening but instead you are bloating a discussion that had nothing to do with you or anything that you keep insisting on.

And grow a fucking pair, if you delete the partition information and make it again thats what probably the console was doing but fixed position files are still there and thats why it was reading what shouldnt be there, if anything "she"(the console is your bitch right?) does a dirty format and doesnt actually clean anything and files on fixed positions are considered to be already created for that to happen(my guess), and a zero fill since you arent capable of searching writes on every damm position of the HD, from start to finish of the PHYSICAL DISK a literal 0 cleaning any left over data, every damm byte avalible, which is where the files are stored in real life, so stop being an annoying prick and learn a thing or two instead of hacking shit together amd thinking you are god of knowlodge, google is your friend, use it!

Also a Message to mods: I accept my temp ban for taking a shit on a {[('"Dev"')]}(actual devs knows what they are talking about and not just a kid raging on twitter), just keep the thread up for future reference since as with everything on the PS3 scene theres massive lack of written knowlodge.

 

[Berion]

And grow a fucking pair, if you delete the partition information and make it again thats what probably the console was doing but fixed position files are still there and thats why it was reading what shouldnt be there

It is there but filesystem table is clean, not adopted old because it is not seek in the first place. That's why this data cannot be found by other means than signature scan and I explained to You what PS3 doing during format.

if anything "she"(the console is your bitch right?)

In Polish language, every item have type male, female or neutral. Console is: she. And yes, unfortunately, I mixing languages with my own because I'm thinking in Polish way; have no language skills at all. For me it is success the level I reached.

so stop being an annoying prick and learn a thing or two instead of hacking shit together amd thinking you are god of knowlodge, google is your friend, use it!

I explained to You already how this works...

Also a Message to mods: I accept my temp ban for taking a shit on a {[('"Dev"')]}(actual devs knows what they are talking about and not just a kid raging on twitter), just keep the thread up for future reference since as with everything on the PS3 scene theres massive lack of written knowlodge.

We don't have here North Korea or soviet Russia, other people doesn't need to agree with me and punishing those who not agree with me. Your main issue from few last posts is language from a gutter. You are aggressive Dave, unnecessary.

I don't have Twitter account so I don't know what You talking about. I'm using only PSX-Place forum, very rarely Reddit and quite often Discord scene channels.

 

[Kevin8082]

not adopted old

It's not adopting, its like your PS2 mixed partitions hack, its reading files from fixed positions, you can delete an entire partition info but the files are still in there written, theres a reason file recovery software exists, the entire file headers and file information didnt leave the discs just because you did a dirty format, again google is your friend, use it!

In Polish language, every item have type male, female or neutral.

Cool brazilian portuguese is the same, and considering the neutral side in all 3 languages IT's not hard to remember that, but you sounded like a moron either way lol

ou are aggressive Dave, unnecessary.

Considering you are being unnecessary it just fits to act in the same way, maybe if you learn that you also don't like it you will stop acting like that but I guess nobody tried that with you before and here we are with you spewing technical jargon trying to invalidate facts that happen in real life(which isnt inside your head) lol

EDIT: Forgot to say, grow a pair

 

[Berion]

It's not adopting, its like your PS2 mixed partitions hack, its reading files from fixed positions, you can delete an entire partition info but the files are still in there written, theres a reason file recovery software exists, the entire file headers and file information didnt leave the discs just because you did a dirty format, again google is your friend, use it!

I've got it on first time but it is not how it works. xRegistry.sys, where settings and user info are stored is on VFLASH/eFlash partition which have FAT16 filesystem. This file and/or its copy can be there on any sectors which this partition occupying, which means cannot be read via fixed offset, otherwise Sony would put it on RAW like few other things.

theres a reason file recovery software exists (...) again google is your friend, use it!

Again, I said that allocation table is empty and only signature scan is possible (as always, only for data which even can be identifying by unique header and/or footer and is not fragmented).

you spewing technical jargon trying to invalidate facts that happen in real life

I teaching You (well, not You personally because You constantly trying insulting me; but people from the future) how things works and cannot be done without proper terminology. What You described is impossible, in assumption that what You said You have did is true.

 

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[ashura]

hi guys, actually by experience i used to have a hsgt 500gb hdd 7200 RPM, it was really good, i never had issues with it whatsoever regarding games or other functions of the ps3, i have a slim under 4.90 cfw from evilnal under OC version, i decided to change or upgrade to SSD due to not only just the speed difference, i thought that maybe there was not difference due to that the ps3 handles up to SATA 1 internal drive but it makes a good difference, for my console i am using now the 480 gb adata SU650 that brings a TLC technology and also the SLC cache it may help too at some point, unfortanely i do not have a way to test it to see if it makes a difference but at least of where i saw it over the internet reviews and going depper into the SLC cache technology that some ssds have it is worth it, i recommend you if you are getting one of them for your console, try to copy all your saves and after you installed everything into the ssd once it is installed on your ps3, copy back all your saves and make the installation of the games that you are sure that you are going to have in there due to that the ps3 lacks of trim support for the ssd, i am unaware if there is perhaps a way that for example you can take the ssd and do the trim process on an another pc for windows, maybe for linux they may be a way but... no idea, so far that is what i can tell from my end, i hope that it helps and have a nice one

 

[salazar07]

So funny story, installed a 7200RPM HD on my 2001A slim some time ago, did close to no testing since for putting the games back in and everything worked out aka games = runs and even after losing my profile since even the guide in this forum on how to do it manually and using the data transfer utility didnt work out but it doesnt matter atm, fast foward maybe 2-3 months later I decided to replay all the god of war games and I noticed that the same audio track was playing 2-3x at the same time, sometimes dialogues would be cut off out of nowhere but even after a reload they would play just fine so that part was fully random, but that audio problem was bothering me like hell but I played through the games, now fast foward to yesterday and I found a 500GB 5400RPM HD lost in the PC stuff cabinet and decided to do a full wipe(zero fill) and thought of testing it on the PS3, but I also ended up doing the same on the 500GB 7200RPM HD that was on the PS3, both are from WD btw, just to try on a clean everything to test it out, fully formatted it on the console, installed webMAN MOD and put God of War 3 in the HD and even with that I was getting those annoying audio issues, and I stopped there for yesterday since I had stuff to do and today I put the 5400RPM HD in and did the same thing, fully clean install, webMAN MOD, God of War 3 and played the start of the game until I reached Athena and in the end with the slower HD I didnt have any issue with the audio whatsoever, something that when using the 7200RPM one on the first time Gaya talks the audio desync was there already.

So, I hear people talking about using SSDs, faster loading times and etc, in the end is it trully worth it putting anything faster on the PS3 considering the games seems to be so damm hard coded for that stuff to happen? Specially that "generically" the cutscenes/dialogues getting cut off seems to happen with different games(other god of war games had that problem and noticed it on killzone 3 as well).

And this stuff I couldnt find anything anywhere about it, so would be nice to hear if someone else also had this problem.

something I wondered about big games that install into internal hard drive. (pardon me if I don't know) When playing thru hen is the hard drive having to read from both the install data and the game disk iso/jb folder. The hard drive is 2 places at once whereas playing games off a disk the ps3 reads form bd drive and hdd?

Would if be faster for this games to read the games off an usb external drive. that way the internal reads the install data and the usb reads the files not in the install data.

 

[GuilloteTesla]

something I wondered about big games that install into internal hard drive. (pardon me if I don't know) When playing thru hen is the hard drive having to read from both the install data and the game disk iso/jb folder. The hard drive is 2 places at once whereas playing games off a disk the ps3 reads form bd drive and hdd?

Would if be faster for this games to read the games off an usb external drive. that way the internal reads the install data and the usb reads the files not in the install data.

HDD interface is way faster than both, BD and USB. The strategy of games installing data an reading from the BD is:

• To prevent piracy.
• To have most used and common assets installed on the HDD for faster access (and reduce loading times), and only load specific things from the BD disk.