PS3 Wifi error code while upgrading hdd

[bobrooney]

Hi,

I have PS3 super slim 12G and decided to upgrade internal memory with a hdd, but I'm constantly getting error message: "An error occurred during the copy operation (8001000B)". And there are no option to choose. Only that error message on whole screen. So I must restart my PS3. I'm getting this during copy operation. Tried 3 different hard drives and getting the same error. The only difference is percentage when that error pops out. I searched the internet and saw that this error code is for wifi connection! How can that be? What wifi connection has to do with file copying?
I even established wifi connection (ethernet before that) but result is the same.

Any kind of help is more than welcome.

 

[DonKeballs]

Unfortunately with PS3s if there's a fault with the wifi/bt module it will see this and abort the firmware installation process. You will be stuck in this installation loop until you get the module fixed/replaced.

 

[DeViL303]

It does not seem to be the normal wifi chip issue, that one will normally appear later in the installation process, NOT during the copy operation.

Seems more like some issue with the current data on the 12GB internal memory or an issue with the USB drive. First I would try another USB flash drive.

If no luck with a different USB drive, You could try enter the recovery menu (Safe mode) without the new HDD connected, and try select option 3 and option 4 first of all, then try with the HDD again.

If that still does not work, AND If there is no data on the internal 12GB memory that you need, Then try reset to factory defaults from there. Option 5. Then try with the HDD installed again.

Warning: All at your own risk, you could lose the data, or even end up with a brick if fails to install later in the process.

 

[bobrooney]

This thing is driving me crazy...

I tried Option 3 and Option 4 from Safe Mode - The thing is that every time a go with Option 3 it says that system storage is corrupted and that will be restored. After restore, I go again with Option 3 and it says again same thing! No matter how many time I repeat this Option it always says that storage is corrupted. Ok, so I think something is wrong with my internal memory - But I will continue anyway.

After that I insert hard drive in my PS3 and start migration process. In first try it didn't gave me that wifi error but this error: "An error occurred during the copy operation (8001000B)".

Next try - I go Option 3 then Option 4 from Safe Mode, inserting hdd, migration starts, after couple of steps error: "An error occurred during the format operation (FFFFFFFF)"

I take out hdd, put it in enclosure and then in PC. Gparted says no partion table. I create one. Putting back hdd in PS3. PS3 boots! No question to copy files from internal memory to hdd. But there are no games, nor apps... only HEN. I check in system information - it says storage: Hard drive! I'm totally confused. But on other other hand happy.. is it possible that I have made it?! I launched one and only thing I had left - HEN. System freezes. Strange sound (weird ticking) starts from my hdd. Waited couple minutes... nothing... still frozen. Restarting PS3. Message no hdd found, weird ticking still present.

Again putting hdd in enclosure. No partion table. Making one. Putting again in PS3. Still no hdd found.
Tried all of this with another hdd - again no hdd found and strange sound from hdd.

This would led me to conclusion that this has something to do with SATA controller in my PS3.

So is it internal memory, is it SATA controller, is something other broken, is my PS3 possessed, controlled by aliens... or some other dark forces of evil?

 

[sandungas]

The error code is not related with wifi https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Error_Codes
ETIMEDOUT 0x8001000B The operation is timed out

It means the filesystem inside the internal storage (12gb eMMC chip) is damaged... so the PS3 cant do that "migration" of the data from eMMC chip to SATA HDD
Think in it this way... the filesystem cant be repaired (because the option 3 never completes successfully)... so to solve the problem the PS3 needs to create a new filesystem inside the eMMC chip

Btw, everytime you create a partition table or format the SATA HDD in PC is pretty much like deleting all the info in it. The PS3 doesnt understands the partition tables and/or filesystems used in a standard PC
So... the next time you connect the SATA HDD to the PS3 is pretty much like if it was completly filled with zeroes (the PS3 can identify it, but needs to format it)

 

[bobrooney]

The error code is not related with wifi https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Error_Codes
ETIMEDOUT 0x8001000B The operation is timed out

TBH I just googled PS3 error codes and opened first result:
https://ccm.net/gaming/playstation/1775-playstation-3-error-codes/
8001000B Wi-Fi key error
Now I see that there are couple of interpretation of that error code, depending what site I open. On some web sites there is interpretation that is internal memory problem...

Btw, everytime you create a partition table or format the SATA HDD in PC is pretty much like deleting all the info in it. The PS3 doesnt understands the partition tables and/or filesystems used in a standard PC
So... the next time you connect the SATA HDD to the PS3 is pretty much like if it was completly filled with zeroes (the PS3 can identify it, but needs to format it)

I was just creating standard partion table and leaving unlocated space. I have not created and file system. I think that that is a state when u buy new, unused hdd. That was my logic... to bring hdd in a "new" state and that PS3 handle it in that way.

What should I do in your opinion?

 

[Berion]

I think that that is a state when u buy new, unused hdd.

I doesn't matter what HDD contains and what not. PS3 will format it, which means creating her own partition table type, needed partitions and encrypting them.

 

[bobrooney]

I doesn't matter what HDD contains and what not. PS3 will format it, which means creating her own partition table type, needed partitions and encrypting them.

The thing is that it doesn't recognize hdd anymore, so it cant to that.

 

[Berion]

Yes, I've read the whole topic. But I point that it is not recognized for other reason than logic structure which doesn't matter, as PS3 use her own, so whatever she found on HDD it will be wipeout.

I'm agree with diagnosis of @sandungas here. Reliable error codes are on dev wiki, it is like holy bible for the sceners. Many people taking care of information source and proofs so it is most important knowledge base. WiFi/BT and ODD errors are different.

 

[sandungas]

TBH I just googled PS3 error codes and opened first result:
https://ccm.net/gaming/playstation/1775-playstation-3-error-codes/
8001000B Wi-Fi key error
Now I see that there are couple of interpretation of that error code, depending what site I open. On some web sites there is interpretation that is internal memory problem...

Im not sure who added that description of the error in wiki, but assuming is right... is telling there is a timeout (the firmware is trying to do something but whatever is at the other side of the line is not replying), and you are having that error while the PS3 is trying to read the eMMC
Also, keep in mind you are having the error too while doing the option 3 from recovery menu to "restore filesystem", thats pretty much like a scandisk and a defragmentation together... the firmware needs to read the entire filesystem to locate the files, then perform a sanity check in them, reorganize them, etc...
We dont know well how it works, but your PS3 cant complete that process (and there is no other device in this world that could do it, other than your unique PS3) so the filesystem is unrecoverable
The filesystem is software, in theory it can be regenerated but i never heard this problem in a PS3 with a eMMC chip, i dont know how is supposed to work that process in a superslim with eMMC

What we dont know is if the filesystem was damaged as a consequence of a physical damage (in other words... bad blocks inside the eMMC chip or whatever). Im just mentioning this because in a standard mechanical HDD uses to happen that we are 100% sure the filesystem is damaged but we dont really know if the HDD have some phisical damage (until we do some tests, as a surface scan to see if it have scratches, dead sectors, etc...)

I was just creating standard partion table and leaving unlocated space. I have not created and file system. I think that that is a state when u buy new, unused hdd. That was my logic... to bring hdd in a "new" state and that PS3 handle it in that way.

What should I do in your opinion?

The main goal when we format the HDD in PC is to be 100% sure that we are removing any kind of data compatible with the PS3 (data that could be problematic from a previous test in the PS3) and this can be achieved by many ways, creating a partition table works because you are overwriting the first sector, as well as creating any partition with any filesystem (because this involves writing in the first sector too), and something even faster is to open the device with a hexeditor and fill the first sector with zeroes
All that methods cleans the HDD completly (the PS3 is not able to recognize any old data from it)

I just mentioned it because in the order you are doing i dont see how it could help, you are connecting it at the end expecting the PS3 to use it directly... but inmediatly after connecting it for first time the PS3 cant use it (it needs to format it). Im not sure how works in superslims with eMMC but you should have some kind of warning telling "A new HDD has been detected, do you want to format it ?"
This step where the PS3 formats it should work fine, actually as far i remember you mentioned you already tryed with other HDDs... so the HDD is fine
I guess if you continue trying that "migration" of data and results in more errors it could be a good idea to continue formatting it in PC (to clean all posible garbage from the failed previous attempt), but format the HDD first (before any other step of the migration procedure you explained)

 

[bobrooney]

First of all, thank you all for your effort to help me. I realize that this is not ordinary problem and that some of you are give me really detailed explanations. Which requires some time of yours.

Now back to the problem...

Im not sure how works in superslims with eMMC but you should have some kind of warning telling "A new HDD has been detected, do you want to format it ?"
This step where the PS3 formats it should work fine, actually as far i remember you mentioned you already tryed with other HDDs... so the HDD is fine
I guess if you continue trying that "migration" of data and results in more errors it could be a good idea to continue formatting it in PC (to clean all posible garbage from the failed previous attempt), but format the HDD first (before any other step of the migration procedure you explained)

That's now my primary problem. I don't see that message (A new HDD has been detected, do you want to format it?) anymore. In my first tries it was all the time, but after, I don't know, 5 tries it stopped poping up. On both hdds. Now when I insert hdd, PS3 boots from eMMC like I have not inserted hdd. Why this started to happen? I tried to restored PS3, flashed back OFW,... and again... my PS3 doesn't see hdd anymore.
Just to repeat something, maybe I wasn't clear enough... When I go "Restore File System" that message that system is corrupted it comes before restore process itself, I presume in "analysis phase", and when restoring process starts it goes to 100%, with no errors and system restarts and boots normally. But then I repeat that process (restoring) that error comes again in that analysis phase. Meaning that restoring wasn't successful after all but system have not reported that.
Also, maybe worth mentioning that I'm using that PS3 regularly and never experienced any problem that could point that something is wrong with eMMC and I'm filling it to the full (not hard with 12GB

I know that its easier to buy other PS3 (since they are cheap these days) but the problem is that most of those consoles are 10+ years old and you never know what you will get... like I did with this console

UPDATE:
Solved issue with hdd not being recognized. I did low level formatting of hdd and now PS3 recognize it.
But now I get 8001002F error. I will revert again on OFW and format internal memory. Maybe something on HWF is blocking copy operation?

 

[sandungas]

That's now my primary problem. I don't see that message (A new HDD has been detected, do you want to format it?) anymore. In my first tries it was all the time, but after, I don't know, 5 tries it stopped poping up. On both hdds. Now when I insert hdd, PS3 boots from eMMC like I have not inserted hdd. Why this started to happen? I tried to restored PS3, flashed back OFW,... and again... my PS3 doesn't see hdd anymore.

I thought maybe it was because you was formatting it in PC at the last step, but read below...

Just to repeat something, maybe I wasn't clear enough... When I go "Restore File System" that message that system is corrupted it comes before restore process itself, I presume in "analysis phase", and when restoring process starts it goes to 100%, with no errors and system restarts and boots normally. But then I repeat that process (restoring) that error comes again in that analysis phase. Meaning that restoring wasn't successful after all but system have not reported that.
Also, maybe worth mentioning that I'm using that PS3 regularly and never experienced any problem that could point that something is wrong with eMMC and I'm filling it to the full (not hard with 12GB

I know that its easier to buy other PS3 (since they are cheap these days) but the problem is that most of those consoles are 10+ years old and you never know what you will get... like I did with this console

Ok, that text message that appears at beginning of the process is misleading because is affirming there are errors (but the PS3 doesnt really knows it because the scanning has not been initiated yet)
In other words... is not always true
A more accurate description would be "you are in this menu because the PS3 had an improper shutdown caused by a freeze/crash"... but thats not completly true either because you can initiate that procedure manually from recovery menu in a HDD working perfectly

In all cases the procedure always starts with that message telling "an error has been detected, blah, blah..", and you answer should be "shut up and start scanning it and we will talk later"
If the process is completed up to 100% it means the filesystem is fine (be aware sometimes the counter only increases up to 99% and never displays the 100% but this should be considered fine, is normal)
And btw, passing that scan 1 time is great, but passing it several times in a row is even better just incase (when im in problems i use to run it 2 or 3 times consecutivelly just to be sure it completes to the 100% in all them)

UPDATE:
Solved issue with hdd not being recognized. I did low level formatting of hdd and now PS3 recognize it.
But now I get 8001002F error. I will revert again on OFW and format internal memory. Maybe something on HWF is blocking copy operation?

Maybe the formats in PC was doing something weird ?
The alternative method i mentioned with a hexeditor is easy, it can be made with this hexeditor (free, and there is a "portable" version that doesnt requires instalaltion) https://mh-nexus.de/en/hxd/

You just need to connect the SATA HDD to PC, open the program and use an option (from the tabs) named "open disk", and select the SATA HDD. You are going to see at top it tells something like "sony computers, etc..."
Well.. you just need to select (highlight) lot of bytes at beginning by "click and drag" with the mouse cursor and use another option in the tabs named "fill selection" (with zeroes), save changes, and thats all... you "killed" all the data inside it (in other words, the PS3 is not able to read a single byte from it... the only thing the PS3 can do with it is to format it with an special format specific for the PS3)