PS2 (WIP) XtremeEliteBoot+ (a powerful alternative for FMCB)

[MALK]

@TnA man you heard what i said we all could be wrong soo far it doea looks like a CRIPPLED FMCB and he is lacking alotta evidence if he is using fmcb and replaced the logo all he has to do is keep fmcb logo and make it boot his thing.
he still has very low evidence soo he can't refute us when it is his fault for not putting the beta out.
even you Tna are not actually certain what it really is.
all we need is that beta to public.
iam only interested in the boot process because if hwnj found a different way to boot than fmcb then it might work on 90004 systems maybe i dunno.
if he is using something from fmcb do you think it is ok if he edit the logo i don't think soo it's like taking someone else's picture and writing your name on it claiming it is you.

 

[MALK]

btw the app he made is cool i get it but he can't just freaking take fmcb edit the logo and act like it is his xtreme elite boot the boot loader was obviously stolen from fmcb (as it looks soo far) he can call it xtreme elite manager or something like a new ps2 home screen but calling it xelite boot and he is not the one that made the boot loader is just funked up.

 

[TnA]

If he is solely embedding his kind of ELF into the DVDPLx (it seems he is using an old KELF-Generation/algo-type) and it is solely an ELF-Loader to load the XEBPLUS.ELF, yes! That would be fine!

The MG-Exploit in a project still qualifies for being mentioned in a credits.txt, but does not need to have a logo!
If it is the FMCB-Payload (even a stripped down version), which mostly also includes things like the system-initialization, it should have the logo...

No, I don't think it will work on BOOT-ROM 2.30...

 

[MALK]

@STLcardsWS can you shed some honesty it looks like ya know something it would be better to shed some light on us now if there is something to shed this project is as fishy as fush.

iam referring to what you said to ElSingao earlier.

 

[STLcardsWS]

@STLcardsWS can you shed some honesty it looks like ya know something it would be better to shed some light on us now if there is something to shed this project is as fishy as fush.

iam referring to what you said to ElSingao earlier.

You asked...

Spoiler

This should shed some light.. ​

 

[MALK]

seriously tho

 

[ElSinGao]

iam talking about clones that work like this:
fmcb --->edited logo---->custom gui that launches elfs.
and that's how xeb looks like.
thats exactly what happened in the past they will edit the logo then make fmcb redirect you to the custom gui app elf that they made it is too damn easy.

take a look at what I wrote here:

In my personal perspective... it seems that it is not a FMCB with the Logo changed. Check the video. The screen does NOT blink when going from the logo to the XEB menu, so it does not changes the ELF (my personal impression, I am not sure). The logo could be a "loading" for the menu itself. It could be loading the graphics and then when the load is done, it shows the menu

And to TnA:

I do not question the feature itself, but rather the implementation into a boot-Loader, when it is rather game-related feature (but well, that might be alright) and the mentioned function about writing to NVRAM doesn't really seem to make it an 'emulation'...

If someone wants to boot an imported disc with different language, this will be required.
Per-game settings in apps like OPL is not useful for people who wants to play imported original games, by example.

Yes FMCB can also change the VMode of the OSDSYS...

Yeah, but FMCB does not shows colors if the video is patched

I did NOT said what you claim here... und wenn du dem Deutschen mächtig bist, dann wäre dass vorsätzliches falsch verstehen...
...or you should fix your translator...

I essentially just listed some 'fishy' things and you do realize that the post was from 3.Juli, where it did look exactly like that?!

I am learning German, it was me, not a translator

THX to your last reply (@ElSinGao), it became a more clear picture how it probably is structured and if I understand it correctly (I can only assume it.), then even all credit-related things seem to be fine!

You're welcome

The reason I reacted so harsh before was, that the LGBTQ-Stuff you were dropping every second post, just got annoying as hell... on top of the unclear credits-situation!
That's not what The Scene is about, or what we are here for...

And I am sorry, but I was pissed at @MALK and I need to drop my wrath

It would be nice, if you could tell HWNJ that it was wrong to drag him and his project into my 'rant', even tho' it wasn't his fault!

I will do not worry

No, I don't think it will work on BOOT-ROM 2.30...

He already shared something about this and it is tested to work on 2.30:
http://www.ps2-home.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5751
and proof here:
http://www.ps2-home.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=5749

 

[ElSinGao]

I suggest that some HONESTY start to shine through or i will shed it myself.

You asked...

Spoiler

This should shed some light.. ​

View attachment 13765

I am curious too... Did you also have a BETA?

 

[ElSinGao]

@TnA man you heard what i said we all could be wrong soo far it doea looks like a CRIPPLED FMCB and he is lacking alotta evidence if he is using fmcb and replaced the logo all he has to do is keep fmcb logo and make it boot his thing.
he still has very low evidence soo he can't refute us when it is his fault for not putting the beta out.
even you Tna are not actually certain what it really is.
all we need is that beta to public.
iam only interested in the boot process because if hwnj found a different way to boot than fmcb then it might work on 90004 systems maybe i dunno.
if he is using something from fmcb do you think it is ok if he edit the logo i don't think soo it's like taking someone else's picture and writing your name on it claiming it is you.

btw the app he made is cool i get it but he can't just freaking take fmcb edit the logo and act like it is his xtreme elite boot the boot loader was obviously stolen from fmcb (as it looks soo far) he can call it xtreme elite manager or something like a new ps2 home screen but calling it xelite boot and he is not the one that made the boot loader is just funked up.

@MALK you are OK to have your own opinion, but also take your time to read what others said

If he is solely embedding his kind of ELF into the DVDPLx (it seems he is using an old KELF-Generation/algo-type) and it is solely an ELF-Loader to load the XEBPLUS.ELF, yes! That would be fine!
The MG-Exploit in a project still qualifies for being mentioned in a credits.txt, but does not need to have a logo!
If it is the FMCB-Payload (even a stripped down version), which mostly also includes things like the system-initialization, it should have the logo...

No, I don't think it will work on BOOT-ROM 2.30...

I am on no side. I am certainly curious too about if it is a FMCB clone or not, but for me, it is most likely to NOT be a clone. @TnA thinks the same too as he stated.
Take your time to read please, ad do not act like the Pain of the forum (your avatar) and your username
MALK
Ackowledge he
Lacks of
Knowledge

You seem like a brat who is furious about not having something and you miss the facts everyone shows off here about comparing if is fake or not.
We (@TnA and I) shared our opinions and we both explained why we think of that, based on some logic facts we all have seem and all are public.
You just said "fake" with not logic behind it.

 

[ElSinGao]

Ah!!!
I almost forget this:

@TnA
I tried to launch the XEBMAIN.ELF in another Memory Card with FMCB installed and I returned me an error instead of loading the XEBMAIN.ELF
It was in Spanish so I will translate it to English, the text said:
The system was not properly initialized. Restart your PS2. If the problem persists you should reinstall XEB+.
Then I tried to load it from uLaunchELF on the XEB+ Memory Card (not on the FMCB one). And it returned the same message.

If I simply do a IGR (normal IGR, not IGR to an ELF), on OPL, it works fine. If I turn my PS2 on and load it the normal way, it works fine, if I load XEB+ (not the ELF) via DEV1, it works fine. If I load it from uLE, it fails, if I load it from FMCB, it fails.

Did this mean something for you?

*Data: I copied every file inside BOOT and SYS-CONF from the XEB+ MC to the FMCB MC, just in case it required some extra files.

 

[MALK]

excuse me @ElSinGao but what i said is logic too and what you said is logic but me you and tna we were never saying any facts because a fact is backedup by a solid evidence we don't have the beta to be sure i may be completely you maybe completely wrong tna maybe completely nobody is sure iam just sharing my opinion and i respect that you respect and understand my opinion but don't blame me and call me a brat i have nothing in my hands to be sure what xeb is iam only judging by what it looks like.
soo if you please release the beta to public we may have an idea and if he don't want it to get leaked he can send it to me and i won't leak it.
the summary is that without a beta in hand nothing is called a fact.

 

[sp193]

I am all for seeing a new development, especially since we have not seen something elaborate in a long time. But please keep the discussion civil. I do not know what each of you have experienced during your lifetimes, but really now... there is still no public build, so we can only say that we are more (but not totally) convinced that something exists. We have not seen the actual product, hence we cannot say with absolute certainty that it is an original piece of work like that. It is unfortunate, but the more elaborate something is, the harder that news is to believe. But it is not without reason; there are not many people left around here who can and will make nice pieces of PS2 software.

The "emulation" of the language option is not really emulation. One can set the language setting in the kernel and it will be used by the game. No need to update the EEPROM.
I have made such a tool before, although it only set the language to Japanese. This was done so that the Japanese content (like soundtracks) would be available. The limitation on the supported language is implemented within the browser.

 

[Agrippa]

Yes, that's what I've meant in my earlier post. The game retrieves the language from the OSD settings so it's sufficient to set it in the System Configuration menu.

But I understand that this could be a specific feature for Cuban residents. Someone has said before here that it's a useful thing for imported consoles from Russia. Of course, nobody in the western world imports electronics from the east, but the Cuba could have some trading agreements with Russia or it is just easier to import from there rather than from Latin America. Even though I live in Poland, I've never had opportunity to own Russian PS2. But it probably has got two languages to choose - English and Russian. So forcing Spanish setting has a sense there.

Yes, there is still too much arguing in this thread. The developer doesn't want to release the test version outside the Cuba, even though he started the "translation campaign" before. I can't understand this attitude and I can only wonder, why he has changed his mind suddenly. I feel sorry for all translators wasted their time on this. And we can only wait for the release. Don't feed the thing with unneeded attention.

 

[ElSinGao]

soo if you please release the beta to public we may have an idea and if he don't want it to get leaked he can send it to me and i won't leak it.

Release it to the public is not up to me and even if I leak the files, you will not be able to do anything as I already tried executing the XEBMAIN.ELF in another MC and did not worked, then I copypasted everything inside the MC to another clean MC and also do not worked.
Also, you seem like the kind of person who will leak anything.

I feel sorry for all translators wasted their time on this.

When he copied the BETA PC apps to my hard disk I was able to see the a folder in his PC arranged by Languages that should have inside the XEB+ BETAs for more languages. I guess they did not wasted their time doing that, they just need to wait a little bit more. Also, PSXtreme is different from the other apps, it haves a language selector once it starts, filename POSXX_XEBPLUS_INT.exe.
PS2SX haves no language selector on startup but the filename says: PS2SX_XEBPLUS_SPA.exe
Same for USBInstaller: USBI_XEBPLUS_SPA.exe

We have not seen the actual product, hence we cannot say with absolute certainty that it is an original piece of work like that. It is unfortunate, but the more elaborate something is, the harder that news is to believe. But it is not without reason; there are not many people left around here who can and will make nice pieces of PS2 software.

I understand your position. Even I, having a BETA, have my doubts about how original this is. This could be, like @TnA said, a FMCB clone with some things stripped off and with some things changed. I am also curious about it.
The fact I can not run XEBMAIN.ELF on another MC is curious too.
I tried to run XEBMAIN.ELF on a PC emulator, it also shows the same error.

On the good side. I must go to his house in Saturday to get some files to share here (I hope) or at least to take something to show here as he said:

Reason 1: I will like to show 2 weeks and these captures will spoil almost everything

If I can not post for myself in two weeks, @ElSinGao will do it for me.
So, this time, this will be made for sure.

 

[MALK]

Even I, having a BETA, have my doubts about how original this is. This could be, like @TnA said, a FMCB clone with some things stripped off and with some things changed. I am also curious about it.

didn't you say that you don't think it's a clone earlier honey i think we all don't know wtf anymore the beta would fix all of this confusion i feel that we are slapping the air seriously the whole time i was arguing with you it turns out we agree on the same shit.

I must go to his house in Saturday to get some files to share here (I hope) or at least to take something to show

that would be Great

 

[ElSinGao]

didn't you say that you don't think it's a clone earlier honey i think we all don't know wtf anymore the beta would fix all of this confusion i feel that we are slapping the air seriously the whole time i was arguing with you it turns out we agree on the same shit.

I said that I am almost convinced it is NOT a clone but I have my doubts like everyone

 

[ElSinGao]

it turns out we agree on the same shit.

no, we do not agreed on the same
you are almost convinced it is fake and I almost convinced it is his own piece of code
you doubt it is real and I doubt if it haves or not some FMCB code on it

 

[TnA]

Oh guys.... erm... Human beings...
That's not what we are here for...

I will give an answer on the relevant stuff of the new replies later.

 

[MALK]

nahh iam not convinced of anything really i don't know if it's real or if it is not real i already mentioned that iam judging it by the way it looks thats what i meant when i said we agree on the same point which is that there is something from xeb i just fall on the scale that believe it is fake more than you but we both doubt soo ...
anyway it would be cool if we see what hwnj has to say about this he is the developer his absence is problematic but that's @HWNJ he will be back soon to answer us.

 

[ElSinGao]

nahh iam not convinced of anything really i don't know if it's real or if it is not real i already mentioned that iam judging it by the way it looks thats what i meant when i said we agree on the same point which is that there is something from xeb i just fall on the scale that believe it is fake more than you but we both doubt soo ...

I never said I think it is fake.
I said that I have my doubts about if it haves some FMCB code on it.