PS3 Console Total Powered On Time (WebMAN Mod 1.47.25.3+ feature)

Yes, HDD SMART diagnostics shows exact same usage as CELL data. So if you can plug in your HDD into a SATA connector, you can find out accurate usage.
 
aldostools said:
iDK the original code doesn't use that argument.
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I asked because im not sure if is an unknown, also in wiki it tells is 8bits but in the code samples you posted seems to be declared as 32bits
And it could match with my theory that we are missing other counter (and it should be located inmediatly to the other counters)

Just to be clear, if i had to bet i would say you was right when you said the PS3 is not cummulating the time when is hard powered abruptelly... but maybe sony thought in that and they imagined how to prevent it

Dunno, is mostly a brainstorming trying to figure what could be that arg_1... it could be the kind of thing that 99% of PS3 have the value filled with zeroes, and only a few survivors (like the PS3 from @excaliburn92) have a value different than zero
 
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sandungas said:
I asked because im not sure if is an unknown, also in wiki it tells is 8bits but in the code samples you posted seems to be declared as 32bits
And it could match with my theory that we are missing other counter (and it should be located inmediatly to the other counters)

Just to be clear, if i had to bet i would say you was right when you said the PS3 is not cummulating the time when is hard powered abruptelly... but maybe sony thought in that and they imagined how to prevent it

Dunno, is mostly a brainstorming trying to figure what could be that arg_1... it could be the kind of thing that 99% of PS3 have the value filled with zeroes, and only a few survivors (like the PS3 from @excaliburn92) have a value different than zero
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@3141card maybe has more information. The code implemented in webMAN MOD is based on the open source code of his tool.
 
Long ago, but i look into my databases:

This happens in the lv2 kernel with this syscall:
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sysm_send_packet() send the inquiry packet to the system manager, then we wait for the answare in RX packet.
arg1 is a u8 from offset 0x01 of RX packet.

Meanwhile, in gotham city:
After the system manager has executed the request, it forms the RX payload to be sent to the lv2 kernel:

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Oh, it's the status of the request to the syscon.
 
snkplkn said:
Yes, HDD SMART diagnostics shows exact same usage as CELL data. So if you can plug in your HDD into a SATA connector, you can find out accurate usage.
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In my experience this is completely incorrect, sometimes it shows similar data but a lot of the time it does not. Take for example my 3 low usage CECHA/B consoles:
CECHB
Syscon Hours - 109
Syscon Count - 200 (95 Bad)
HDD Hours - 347
HDD Count - 187

CECHA #1
Syscon Hours - 134
Syscon Count - 151 (12 Bad)
HDD Hours - 125
HDD Count - 142

CECHA #2
Syscon Hours - 30
Syscon Count - 343 (209 Bad)
HDD Hours - 925
HDD Count - 536
 
DoublesAdvocate said:
In my experience this is completely incorrect, sometimes it shows similar data but a lot of the time it does not. Take for example my 3 low usage CECHA/B consoles:
CECHB
Syscon Hours - 109
Syscon Count - 200 (95 Bad)
HDD Hours - 347
HDD Count - 187

CECHA #1
Syscon Hours - 134
Syscon Count - 151 (12 Bad)
HDD Hours - 125
HDD Count - 142

CECHA #2
Syscon Hours - 30
Syscon Count - 343 (209 Bad)
HDD Hours - 925
HDD Count - 536
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But thats not enought, first thing that needs to be checked is if the hdd model is the same that was using sony when the console was shipped from factory
The info in this tables could help with that ---> https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Talk:SKU_Models

As far we know (based on the info collected from user reports), the CECHA was shipped from factory with a Seagate ST96812AS (60 GB)
And the CECHB with a Seagate ST920217AS (20 GB)

I mean... if you buy a used CECHA and it comes with a Seagate ST96812AS then.... ok, maybe is the original hdd from factory and never was replaced... in that case the info recorded in the hdd SMART attributes is more relliable (and there is a high probability to be completly real)

Otherway... if you buy a used CECHA and it comes with a hdd different than Seagate ST96812AS.... then we are sure the previous owners replaced it at some point... so the info from the new hdd is just orientative
 
sandungas said:
But thats not enought, first thing that needs to be checked is if the hdd model is the same that was using sony when the console was shipped from factory
The info in this tables could help with that ---> https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Talk:SKU_Models

As far we know (based on the info collected from user reports), the CECHA was shipped from factory with a Seagate ST96812AS (60 GB)
And the CECHB with a Seagate ST920217AS (20 GB)

I mean... if you buy a used CECHA and it comes with a Seagate ST96812AS then.... ok, maybe is the original hdd from factory and never was replaced... in that case the info recorded in the hdd SMART attributes is more relliable (and there is a high probability to be completly real)

Otherway... if you buy a used CECHA and it comes with a hdd different than Seagate ST96812AS.... then we are sure the previous owners replaced it at some point... so the info from the new hdd is just orientative
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All 3 have their original HDDs with the OEM text on them, I wouldn't have posted that if that were not the case.
I know they are the original HDDs because they were all under firmware version 2.00, so unless somebody was replacing the HDD back in 2008 there's no reason to suspect anything is amiss.
And like I said, MANY of the consoles I have suffer from the same Hours/Cycles mismatch. I could post more evidence from my TOOL/TEST consoles list if you'd like.
 
DoublesAdvocate said:
All 3 have their original HDDs with the OEM text on them, I wouldn't have posted that if that were not the case.
I know they are the original HDDs because they were all under firmware version 2.00, so unless somebody was replacing the HDD back in 2008 there's no reason to suspect anything is amiss.
And like I said, MANY of the consoles I have suffer from the same Hours/Cycles mismatch. I could post more evidence from my TOOL/TEST consoles list if you'd like.
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But you are not mentioning the hdd model, thats what made me doubt
Also, we need to consider that even if the hdd model matches there is a small posibility for that hdd to come from a different PS3

Because some people refurbishes them, and eventually are going to cummulate hdd's of ridiculous sizes (20gb or 60gb are too smalls nowadays) that are going to be stacked in a pile unused and collecting dust
But there are many consumers that just identifyes the different PS3 models based on the hdd capacity... they are searching for a "PS3 60gb"
So the seller just sticks a 60gb hdd from another a CECHA in a different CECHA to sell it as a "PS3 60gb model" and everybody is happy

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I know some of the hdd models used in non-retail PS3 models differs from the retail hdd's, but we dont have a list of them in wiki or any other info
 
sandungas said:
Because some people refurbishes them, and eventually are going to cummulate hdd's of ridiculous sizes (20gb or 60gb are too smalls nowadays) that are going to be stacked in a pile unused and collecting dust
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I can vouch for that. :)
 
here is the data about one of my ps3 consoles. Just to mention that i have put HDD a few days ago and the data compare between HDD and PS3 usage from webman could confirm that it doesn't read the data from HDD if anyone doubts, at least for these 12GB SuperSlim PS3 consoles:
ps3SSlim4304A.jpg
 
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