PS3 Don't use Youtube as main/only source of info for Jailbreaking

[shab]

Alright you're just telling me this site bricked your PS3. I think I'm done helping today.

I will forward the flash file to u via email tho I read mr marios description and it said

 

[TheSulake]

Also, I dont think he installs HFW twice. OMG.

So here are basics step to jailbreaking, see red text for steps the MrMario missed out:

• Install HFW Twice
• Dump for backup
• Flash hex patch
• Dump again
• Check dump is ok
• Install CFW

So 50% of the main steps required were left out of his tutorial. And guys, that is one of the good ones, and its only HALF a tutorial really.

So he did the quick and dodgy way, install HFW > patch > install CFW. And he is making money off it and has 38,000 views, any guess how many bricks,..

I just installed cfw following MaNu's tutorial and in that video doesn't talk about re-dump the flash and check it on PC, but at least my ps3 isn't bricked bro, but the tutorial is almost full

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[Coldheart2236]

I just installed cfw following MaNu's tutorial and in that video doesn't talk about re-dump the flash and check it on PC, but at least my ps3 isn't bricked bro, but the tutorial is almost full

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Almost, except checking the patched dump before restarting the PS3 is to prevent a corrupted flash which would result in a soft brick. Therefore, it's an important step. The PS3Xploit team-authored guides on this site do not have extraneous or optional steps; everything that is in there is for good reason and designed to achieve a successful jailbreak without any issues.

 

[TheSulake]

Almost, except checking the patched dump before restarting the PS3 is to prevent a corrupted flash which would result in a soft brick. Therefore, it's an important step. The PS3Xploit team-authored guides on this site do not have extraneous or optional steps; everything that is in there is for good reason and designed to achieve a successful jailbreak without any issues.

I know but I don't even heard about doing this step, I appreciate my Console still alive

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[Coldheart2236]

I know but I don't even heard about doing this step, I appreciate my Console still alive

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I'm pleased you got a successful jailbreak, I'm just pointing out that YouTube guides are often not thorough and miss out key steps as the uploader didn't deem it important to include them - which is the whole point of this thread as missing steps out can lead to a brick.

 

[Bloodmoons366466]

Ive used a youtube tut before and they are outdated now but the one i used was pretty helpful.

Mr mario just leaves things out or he makes a mistake himself and updates to rebug without rebooting after hex injecting in one of the videos.He atleast does tell you to backup your nand/nor though before doing anything so ill give him that atleast.

 

[ps3mastar234]

that muppet mislead me with steps mr my arsehole he got my ps3 bricked TODAY

Oh damn!! sorry to hear that! People like him gives expert modders a bad image! Then again he's only doing this for YouTube bread $$$

 

[ps3mastar234]

BROKEN FILE = flash_484.hex what else can it be? that's the thing that broke your PS3.

Not too upset you but you do give incorrect instructions yourself to be quite fair...

 

[Agoni212]

Installing 4.84 OFW Once then installing 4.84 HFW does that mean installing twice?

 

[Coldheart2236]

Installing 4.84 OFW Once then installing 4.84 HFW does that mean installing twice?

It means installing HFW 4.84 once via the standard method (XMB) and then once again via the Recovery Menu.

 

[DeViL303]

Installing 4.84 OFW Once then installing 4.84 HFW does that mean installing twice?

That is the same as installing HFW twice yes, its about installing the same version twice, not exact FW, its so that both ROS areas have the same data.

Every time you install FW the PS3 switches over to using the other ROS area to store the version. There are 2 ROS areas, so to get them both to show the same version you must install twice.

As 4.84 OFW and 4.84 HFW are both 4.84, this is enough.

 

[STLcardsWS]

Hey Devil303

I was thinking of Making a PSXPLACE Youtube Channel so everytime you guys upload its on youtube and we do have a lot of friends so making money to go towards research aint a problem

shall i make one for our Team to use

Making a psx-place YouTube Channel?
Sorry but using our name on something that is not affiliated with us would not be a good thing

We do have one, we would be open to video submissions but they would have to be vetted with our team and such .

 

[STLcardsWS]

WHY YOUTUBE VIDEOS ARE BAD IN GENERAL

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.1.) Many have wrong advice. advice is not 1st party and is 3rd party. (Alot of YouTuber's are clueless, some are not but majority are)
2.) Some should not even make a video because they are a noob themselves, they lack understanding to provide advice to others, but they have a camera and a youtube account (so they must be an expert right?)
3.) Details and methods change (Videos often do no update or change and some if they do just opt to do another video with little mention of the new one in the older video. .
4.) Sources of the info are often incorrect or not provided at all.
5.) What works for one does not mean its safe for you or your console.
6.) A forum like psx-place, has the developer's who create the stuff and provide support first hand often.... YouTube you have a guy who thinks they understand it (and often does not) and its a bunch of random people who may or may not know much giving random advice a bit here and a bit in the comments, just taking a user way off course..
7.) For every good video out there in youtube land you can count on having 10 bad ones behind it, and be sure to hit like subscribe and shared. be sure enabled the notifications bell to stay on top of all our Bulllshit

ANY YoutTube Video should be used as a SECONDARY source and not your PRIMARY source of information.
Read the official instructions and precautions, then understand those and you will already be a step ahead and MORE THEN likely will not even need the video at that point, but if you do you will have an idea about the steps already.Also keep in mind NO ONE is perfect and mistakes do happen so that why its even more important to always view the official instructions by the developer in the original locations where they are released. Be it this forums or on gitbub or anywhere else. Always follow the source links until you get the developer posting. Some sites that can be difficult as they will not honestly source but at psx-place we always provide that information as its VITAL to a community.
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[STLcardsWS]

Title says it all, Lots of people using and recommending for example, MrMario tutorial .

And they are bricking due to bad advice. No mention of checking the dump after patching in his tutorial. edit: or installing HFW twice.

Like, if you are going to make a tutorial, follow the official steps, ffs.

AND if you are going to recommend a tutorial to others, at least watch it and make sure it covers the basic 6 steps (see post below)

Apologies if its been said, but what was the issue with MrMario's video.?
I know he has made good video's in the past. (HAVE NOT SEEN ALL OF THEM)
but i know he had one of the better ps3xploit videos for v2.0 (maybe 1.0) if not mistaken.
Was approved by bguerville and esc0rtd3w .

edit:

No mention of checking the dump after patching in his tutorial. edit: or installing HFW twice.

To often that is the problem with using these as primary sources, little bits of info gets lost then you get another video or tut based on that info and it can be a mess. That is why a user needs to always treat it as secondary sources and not the primary ..some of these videos mention the source of the info, but its as much as their other social media links and they are buried in the description . They should make that the forefront in the video and in the description. Not make a user have to read the entire description to find where it came from. Because those things do get missed and a user needs that info accessible IMO ..

 

[esc0rtd3w]

1st time it gave a message saying check usb for dump to check patches were successfully installed then reboot to install cfw of your choice then I went after following mr my arsehole's video (MrMario) and rebooted my ps3 I turned it off and tried turning it on and it showed a YLOD and I thought me ps3 needs new thermal paste but its bricked

and you DID NOT CHECK PATCHES?? even though you read that yourself, and just ignored it?

im all for calling out people on bad tutorials, but if you actually read what it said in the first place, you also would not be in this situation.

i personally know MrMario and he is a good guy, not out to harm anyone or their PS3. obviously the video skips a few steps that can be considered critical, but i also have skipped these steps many times without issue.

i think its a combination of some bad advice and someone not reading instructions that are clear as day on the screen!

either way, i am not condoning bad advice, but clearly this is an issue for some people, and it has been resolved with future tools to be released


EDIT:

my ps3 may have been hailbroken before but I was playing online there was no homebrews etc on my console when I purchased it the previous owner may have deleted it but the theme was there

after reading more posts, i am fairly confident that you flashed that hex file to a CFW console, mostly cause you did not know it was jailbroken. did you read the title of auction? looks like CFW to me

no way to know now, without your old dump. i would be curious to see it.

that muppet mislead me with steps mr my arsehole he got my ps3 bricked TODAY

and yeah, we get it, someone on YouTube broke your PS3...but that is not the case, it was YOU that actually broke it.

any tutorial you followed would have bricked that console by flashing the 3MB patch to a Rebug or other CFW console, even though its clearly stated on exploit page to NOT USE ON CFW!

 

[STLcardsWS]

Hey all! I've lurked here for a while, so seems like a good time to finally register on here. Joonie pinged me privately about this, so I thought I would chime in. He asked if I could update my tutorial, unfortunately due to YouTube being.... Well, YouTube, I cannot add in any extra video footage to the video itself. The most I can do with the current video would be to add in extra information to the description, as well as a comment which I can pin so that's the first thing people see when looking at the comment section. I whipped up the extra steps as steps to take to mitigate any brick risks, had it double-checked by Joonie and esc0rtd3w, and have updated the video.

Despite the amount of comments I get, I still go in and at minimum read through the comments I get. From my observations since the video has gone up: an overwhelming majority of users who have completed the steps have successfully flashed CFW onto their consoles. It has been a small minority of users who have reported bricks in the comments, and a majority of those users with bricked consoles have verified that they missed or ignored steps in the tutorial. As an example: I spent a few minutes harping on which models do and do not work, as well as the importance of verifying your minimum version must be 3.56 or lower. That is explained on the pages linked, in the description, and in the video. If someone deviates and decides to continue on with their Super Slim for example, they chose to ignore all the warnings.

Not covering a few of the steps brought up here? My mistake. Again, I've added the required information I could, and I can tell you all I'll do better next time around. I personally did use the tools myself several times, across several different consoles prior to making this video. I had no issues with them outside of the weird forced recovery mode I detailed in my video, we seem to have deduced that to that PS3 being a CECHL model with a busted BD drive. I do what I can independently to make sure the methods I detail can work several times over for me, if I run into little GOTCHA! or brick issues, I look into minimizing that before releasing a video.

However, I'm also of the belief that you run the risk of bricking a device while performing any sort of hardware or software modification. I've seen it several times with a process I can go through 100 times with no issues, but once it's out in the wild people will report issues or failures they run into. It's happened to me personally with my own hardware! A friend of mine had well over 100 PS3s downgraded and installed with CFW, so I set him up with my first Slim. Somehow, that was the one console he touched which got busted in the process. We even arranged to try it out on a second console, and somehow that was the first compatible console he ran into which no matter what wouldn't take CFW. I didn't place any blame on him for that, was a bit disappointed, but I wrote it off as a fluke.

The most I can do to prevent these situations is to provide steps to mitigate them, which I certainly could have done more on for this tutorial. Again, my mistake, and I'll do better next time.

Just an FYI
This was posted earlier by @MrMario2011 but was in moderation due to low post count.

 

[DeViL303]

and yeah, we get it, someone on YouTube broke your PS3...but that is not the case, it was YOU that actually broke it.

any tutorial you followed would have bricked that console by flashing the 3MB patch to a Rebug or other CFW console, even though its clearly stated on exploit page to NOT USE ON CFW!

Look, you know the guy or whatever, fine, but we have already established that his hex file was bad, So stop trying to turn this into "he flashed cfw, its all the users fault"...

If this tutorial which everyone has been recommending, was even 75% of the steps, the console might still be working.

The tutorial leaves out 50% of the steps . So, its half a tutorial , Like what is the point even coding dumpers and checkers if you are basically advising people not to use them...

unfortunately due to YouTube being.... Well, YouTube, I cannot add in any extra video footage to the video itself. The most I can do with the current video would be to add in extra information to the description, as well as a comment which I can pin so that's the first thing people see when looking at the comment section. I whipped up the extra steps as steps to take to mitigate any brick risks, had it double-checked by Joonie and esc0rtd3w, and have updated the video.

Well, thats completely not true, I use youtube, and video editors, and i know it would be no problem to cut in a few extra sections and reupload, so nice try, but no kebab.

It has been a small minority of users who have reported bricks in the comments, and a majority of those users with bricked consoles have verified that they missed or ignored steps in the tutorial. As an example: I spent a few minutes harping on which models do and do not work, as well as the importance of verifying your minimum version must be 3.56 or lower. That is explained on the pages linked, in the description, and in the video. If someone deviates and decides to continue on with their Super Slim for example, they chose to ignore all the warnings

Did you even read the simple 10 bullet points on **ps3xploit.com >Domain no Longer owned by team** (ps3xploit.me =new)?? because it really seems like you did not when you missed out some important steps.

AFAIK i see, you missed installing HFW twice, you missed checking md5 of hex, you missed checking first dump, you missed doing second dump, and checking it.

Also, the hdd xploits are much better, so using usb, especially to dump NANDs is not recommended. It takes a few seconds to dump to hdd, so "20 to 25 minutes" is not required.

However, I'm also of the belief that you run the risk of bricking a device while performing any sort of hardware or software modification. I've seen it several times with a process I can go through 100 times with no issues, but once it's out in the wild people will report issues or failures they run into. It's happened to me personally with my own hardware! A friend of mine had well over 100 PS3s downgraded and installed with CFW, so I set him up with my first Slim. Somehow, that was the one console he touched which got busted in the process. We even arranged to try it out on a second console, and somehow that was the first compatible console he ran into which no matter what wouldn't take CFW. I didn't place any blame on him for that, was a bit disappointed, but I wrote it off as a fluke.

Look , the fact is , you left out important steps that can save consoles, its not a fluke, its pure laziness, as seen by your "its youtube, i cant fix it " excuse.

The most I can do to prevent these situations is to provide steps to mitigate them, which I certainly could have done more on for this tutorial. Again, my mistake, and I'll do better next time.

So your just going to leave it up? nice one. well thanks anyway. Gues its a nice earner.

It fixed now guys, look:

So people should read those extra steps BEFORE following the video, the same people who avoided all the other text tutorials and went to youtube... and thats the solution.. NICE

 

[TheSulake]

It means installing HFW 4.84 once via the standard method (XMB) and then once again via the Recovery Menu.

I've installed 4.84 HFW from 4.82 without installing normal 4.84 first, TF is going wrong with the tutorial?

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[esc0rtd3w]

but we have already established that his hex file was bad, So stop trying to turn this into "he flashed cfw, its all the users fault"...

is this verified? i don't think it is. the posts i read did not confirm this was the case.

i am not saying to not follow our steps, of course thats the whole reason we made those steps in the first place! I am saying that those skipped steps, alone does not automatically equal a brick.If that hex file is fine and he was on HFW, then skipping those steps would most likely NOT result in a brick

i didnt say he flashed CFW, he bought a PS3 on eBay, for GTA5 modding i assume from the post and it probably had CFW on it

 

[DeViL303]

is this verified? i don't think it is. the posts i read did not confirm this was the case.

OK, I found your problem, your flash_484.hex's corrupted and if you keep using that you will brick every PS3 that you flash that.

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The one of the left is what you have, I'm not sure where you downloaded this.

FYI @esc0rtd3w

If he had checked his hex there is a good chance he would be ok, if he had used the hdd exploit there is a good chance he would be ok.

There is not much safety in mrmarios video at all, its just HFW>patch>CFW, not one md5 check, half the steps from ps3xploit missing. I am guessing you have not watched it or you would not have been recommending it. The only thing safety wise mentioned is minver/model. So that is a plus.

But do you really think this fixes that tutorial, a video that is first result on youtube for jailbreaking?

The thing is too, his video is really long... So people will think its thorough, but its not at all, this text below is more thorough. You could do HFW>patch>CFW video in 10 minutes, no problem.