PS2 DVDRIP-Style Game Conversions for Smooth USB Game Streaming?

[tktagmedia]

If you're old enough to remember the very early days of the PlayStation 2 scene, you'll remember there was a time when DVD burners were absurdly expensive, and one of the popular trends in the community was to create DVD Ripkits which would convert and remove non-essential game data to fit entire DVD games onto 700MB CDs.

I'm curious in knowing whether or not anyone has ever considered taking a similar approach to USB streaming games, whereby large assets that would stutter (FMV cutscenes) are re-encoded to lower bitrates to allow for smooth data streaming over USB?

 

[Berion]

Actually the reasons of making rips was that first generation modchips cannot deal with DVD-R (like Neo family). ;p Until Messiah, it was just necessary.

If rips works from discs, they will works from USB too. In OPL, mode 4 if I'm correct is for *.pss and *.ipu replacement on the fly. Anyway, current OPL versions are far superior than back in time USBA/USBE, also strongly helps defragmentation to not waste time for sectors seeking. And now, we have MX4SIO WIP with faster transfers na USB 1.1 providing.

 

[arcadekidflo]

Any progress made to ripping PS2 games , especially God of War ? From what i read, in the DVD5 rips, part 1 gets stuck before fighting Ares and part 2 before fighting Icarus.

 

[60fpshacksrock]

If you're old enough to remember the very early days of the PlayStation 2 scene, you'll remember there was a time when DVD burners were absurdly expensive, and one of the popular trends in the community was to create DVD Ripkits which would convert and remove non-essential game data to fit entire DVD games onto 700MB CDs.

I'm curious in knowing whether or not anyone has ever considered taking a similar approach to USB streaming games, whereby large assets that would stutter (FMV cutscenes) are re-encoded to lower bitrates to allow for smooth data streaming over USB?

That sounds similar to what happened with the Dreamcast with GD-ROM to MIL-CD conversions.

 

[TnA]

"Considered"??
I tried it when ripping GT4 to a DVD5! It DOES help!

Any progress made to ripping PS2 games , especially God of War ?

From what I know basically all DVD9 games have been ripped to DVD5 with the features in tact!

I remember that there were more issues a decade ago, but if this task is yet to be accomplished I can try to help out.

I can get the MPEG2-Files 20% more compressed on a/via VBR alone and with some AI-Stuff we can actually post-process and "polish" the video, so that when we re-encode it, it doesn't have to deal with as many artifacts and hence have a better video quality with a lower Bitrate.

 

[haxxxen]

I also have done ripkits for myself and even uploaded a few back then. most ripkits have dummied/removed essential fmv's, so I have remade them with nothing removed, but downsized movies. one paticular ripkit I always remember, is the first Splinter Cell game, which I have transformed into 4 CDs with nothing removed. though, I had to figure and modify some bigfile, cause it had file specific LBA. it was my entry for doing game hacks/mods. but in the end I cannot tell if downsizing would help improve any slowdowns

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btw, it was also the reason why I am so addicted to hexeditors, lol

 

[TnA]

I know for sure that re-encoding FMVs helps with "stutters" on USB, on the games I tried it with.

I even still have the DVD5-ISO on the 4TB HDD which holds my PS2-Stuff.

When I remember it and find the time, I can compare them on a new OPL.

Most if not all PSS seem to be "CBR", although I have not yet encountered a game I tried it with, where I could NOT use VBR instead!
Seriously... With AI-Post-processing, GT4 should match into a DVD5 without ANY quality-loss for example.
I would rather like to see a "complete GT4", with all tracks and all music from all versions!

GoW2 is going to be hard I assume. I'd probably force 4:3 or 16:9 and remove the selection of it, to get rid of either of those FMVs.

 

[arcadekidflo]

Or maybe those FMV's can be replaced with a still image and audio / text, like in old games .

 

[999Nocturne]

For modern times with large HDDs I don't see the reason.
I've made many ripkits, and it's not just about compressing movies (PSS), when you go from a DVD format to a CD you also have to deal with protections, patching SLES files, reordering LBA tables, relinching cut files ..just changing a file by one byte and the game didn't work, I don't know now if modern emulation passes all these controls by itself.


Excuse my English