PS2 How to get POPStarter via SMB to work?

[RandomGuy2024]

The problem of slowdown during the game is more of an emulation issue that, as I said, is corrected with certain patches.
The cinematics do not have any lag problem.

So, does that mean the compatibility list is outdated since some of the "incompatible" might actually work provided they are patched? Also, what's the difference between patches and trojans?

We're still talking about cinematics, right?

The other thing, some "slowdowns" during the game are corrected with patches to what is considered a compatible game.

As for the updates, it is a long story that is not for me to tell, if you are curious ask in this thread.

https://www.psx-place.com/threads/popstarter.19139/

So, it seems "lag" in the non-FMV context means "slowdown". I thought they wouldn't have "slowdowns" if ran via SMB unlike via USB.

Also, is the PS1 compatibility still better on the PS3 than on POPStarter?

I have not done it because I do not consider it necessary since USB works well for me.
Maybe someone else could help you.

Do I have to use an USB flash drive or may I use a 2.5" external HDD? Does the PS2 provide enough energy to power an external HDD or do I have to use a 3.5" external HDD or a 2.5" external one connected to both PS2 UsB ports via USB Y-cable?

Also, do the "slowdown" issues (so, not in FMVs) when playing PS2 games on OPL have to do with lag? If not, may I have them if playing them via SMB?

 

[RandomGuy2024]

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[RandomGuy2024]

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[gamerman 5000]

So, does that mean the compatibility list is outdated since some of the "incompatible" might actually work provided they are patched?

To say that it is "outdated" there would have to be patches for a certain game that is not included in the list in which case you can notify the author of the list @El_Patas.

https://www.elotrolado.net/hilo_ho-pops-emulador-de-psx-para-ps2_1874054

Also, what's the difference between patches and trojans?

In my opinion none, since both have the same purpose to correct problems in emulated games.

So, it seems "lag" in the non-FMV context means "slowdown". I thought they wouldn't have "slowdowns" if ran via SMB unlike via USB.

As I said, it's more of a matter of emulation.

Also, is the PS1 compatibility still better on the PS3 than on POPStarter?

I haven't tried it so I couldn't give you a concrete answer.

Do I have to use an USB flash drive or may I use a 2.5" external HDD?

You can use both.

Does the PS2 provide enough energy to power an external HDD or do I have to use a 3.5" external HDD or a 2.5" external one connected to both PS2 UsB ports via USB Y-cable?

Obviously the 2.5" one is going to consume much less energy than a 3.5" one. I myself have a 1TB one and it works perfectly for me.

Also, do the "slowdown" issues (so, not in FMVs) when playing PS2 games on OPL have to do with lag? If not, may I have them if playing them via SMB?

I repeat, it is more a matter of emulation than anything else, you can use both media but it all depends on the emulator.

 

[RandomGuy2024]

To say that it is "outdated" there would have to be patches for a certain game that is not included in the list in which case you can notify the author of the list @El_Patas.

https://www.elotrolado.net/hilo_ho-pops-emulador-de-psx-para-ps2_1874054



In my opinion none, since both have the same purpose to correct problems in emulated games.



As I said, it's more of a matter of emulation.



I haven't tried it so I couldn't give you a concrete answer.



You can use both.



Obviously the 2.5" one is going to consume much less energy than a 3.5" one. I myself have a 1TB one and it works perfectly for me.



I repeat, it is more a matter of emulation than anything else, you can use both media but it all depends on the emulator.

I was told the PS2 doesn't provide enough energy to power a 2.5" external HDD so I shouldn't store PS2 games in one when running OPL. I thought the same went for POPStarter and PS1 games since it was a question of hardware. Are you saying I can use a 2.5" external HDD to store both PS1 and PS2 games to run them on POPStarter and OPL?

Also, if running a PS2 game stored on a 2.5" external HDD connected to a PC or nano router on OPL via SMB, shouldn't it have the same lag and/or slowdown than if running the game from the PC's HDD/SSD/SSHD/eMMC? If so, why did the game I try on the latter had less lag and/or slowdown than the former two?

 

[gamerman 5000]

I was told the PS2 doesn't provide enough energy to power a 2.5" external HDD so I shouldn't store PS2 games in one when running OPL. I thought the same went for POPStarter and PS1 games since it was a question of hardware. Are you saying I can use a 2.5" external HDD to store both PS1 and PS2 games to run them on POPStarter and OPL?

Indeed.

Also, if running a PS2 game stored on a 2.5" external HDD connected to a PC or nano router on OPL via SMB, shouldn't it have the same lag and/or slowdown than if running the game from the PC's HDD/SSD/SSHD/eMMC? If so, why did the game I try on the latter had less lag and/or slowdown than the former two?

What you mention is interesting, I remember connecting the hard drive to the PC to play over the network but I never noticed any difference compared to the built-in drive.

In any case, the speed of the cinematics will always be better over the network, talking about PS2 games of course.

 

[RandomGuy2024]

Indeed.



What you mention is interesting, I remember connecting the hard drive to the PC to play over the network but I never noticed any difference compared to the built-in drive.

In any case, the speed of the cinematics will always be better over the network, talking about PS2 games of course.

Does the latter go for all PS2 games, I mean, could there be games whose cinematics are slower if ran from SMB than USB or from HDD than SMB, for instance? And what about PS1 games?

 

[gamerman 5000]

Does the latter go for all PS2 games, I mean, could there be games whose cinematics are slower if ran from SMB than USB or from HDD than SMB, for instance? And what about PS1 games?

You will always have better speed through the Samba protocol.

Although it is worth saying that some games will be compatible for a certain medium, that is, those that do not work via USB can work via network and vice versa (see OPL compatibility list). Not all of them have lags in the cinematics, hence I recommend being selective for decide which ones to play via network and which ones via USB.

As for PSX games, as I said before, I don't see the point in playing them over the network since I never had a problem using USB.

 

[RandomGuy2024]

You will always have better speed through the Samba protocol.

Although it is worth saying that some games will be compatible for a certain medium, that is, those that do not work via USB can work via network and vice versa (see OPL compatibility list). Not all of them have lags in the cinematics, hence I recommend being selective for decide which ones to play via network and which ones via USB.

As for PSX games, as I said before, I don't see the point in playing them over the network since I never had a problem using USB.

OPL compatibility lists regard the 0.9.3 version, so they're obsolete.

Indeed.



What you mention is interesting, I remember connecting the hard drive to the PC to play over the network but I never noticed any difference compared to the built-in drive.

In any case, the speed of the cinematics will always be better over the network, talking about PS2 games of course.

What about connecting a 2.5" external HDD to a nano router and playing PS1/PS2 games using POPStarter/OPL via SMB? Would the nano router provide enough energy to power the 2.5" external HDD or I'd have to use another power supply?

 

[RandomGuy2024]

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[gamerman 5000]

OPL compatibility lists regard the 0.9.3 version, so they're obsolete.

This list tells you which game works with a certain version of OPL, when it doesn't specify, I want to assume that it is compatible with any version as long as it is green.

https://www.elotrolado.net/wiki/Listado_de_juegos_compatibles_con_usbextreme_usbadvance_y_opl

What about connecting a 2.5" external HDD to a nano router and playing PS1/PS2 games using POPStarter/OPL via SMB? Would the nano router provide enough energy to power the 2.5" external hDD or I'd have to use another power supply?

Because 2.5" drives consume little power, they usually come with a single cable and not in a "y" like mine.

 

[RandomGuy2024]

This list tells you which game works with a certain version of OPL, when it doesn't specify, I want to assume that it is compatible with any version as long as it is green.

https://www.elotrolado.net/wiki/Listado_de_juegos_compatibles_con_usbextreme_usbadvance_y_opl



Because 2.5" drives consume little power, they usually come with a single cable and not in a "y" like mine.

Didn't know that list, only these ones. What are "RED", "IOPRP parcheado", "CDVDSTM.IRX", "PS2LOAD", "DEV9.IRX", "DNAS" and "PS2ESDL"? It may not be compatible with some OPL versions and even that list mostly regards the 1.0.0 version, not the 1.1.0 or 1.2.0 Beta ones.

I know but would the nano router provide enough energy to power the 2.5" external HDD or I'd have to use another power supply?

It seems PS2ESDL can also run PS2 games like OPL and USBEXTREME/USBadvance. It can run games via USB and i.LINK and DNAS, IOPRP and PS2Load opciones are USBUtil settings when converting PS2 games to USBEXTREME format, which can be run on USBEXTREME/USBadvance, OPL and HDLoader/HDExtreme (and I guess HDAdvance). I don't know why there's a program called Ps2Load Injector since I assume USBUtil's PS2Load opciones can do the same.

I still don't get what "CDVDSTM.IRX" and "DEV9.IRX" are, though.

 

[RandomGuy2024]

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[gamerman 5000]

Didn't know that list, only these ones. What are "RED", "IOPRP parcheado", "CDVDSTM.IRX", "PS2LOAD", "DEV9.IRX", "DNAS" and "PS2ESDL"? It may not be compatible with some OPL versions and even that list mostly regards the 1.0.0 version, not the 1.1.0 or 1.2.0 Beta ones.

That's right friend, "it may not be compatible" but it also "may be compatible" with other versions although the list does not mention them since it refers to where it was tested.
Like some PSX games, some PS2 games require certain "patches" to work and you apply these patches with USButil, however I recommend testing the game before applying them, in my case I have never had to use them.

I know but would the nano router provide enough energy to power the 2.5" external HDD or I'd have to use another power supply?

It is up to you to try, there is a greater probability that it will be so, but that is up to you to verify.

 

[RandomGuy2024]

That's right friend, "it may not be compatible" but it also "may be compatible" with other versions although the list does not mention them since it refers to where it was tested.
Like some PSX games, some PS2 games require certain "patches" to work and you apply these patches with USButil, however I recommend testing the game before applying them, in my case I have never had to use them.



It is up to you to try, there is a greater probability that it will be so, but that is up to you to verify.

What are "RED", "DNAS", "IOPRP", "CDVDSTM.IRX" and "DEV9.IRX" (among others) and why does a program called Ps2Load Injector exist when USBUtil already has an option called PS2Load opciones?

Regardless if it would provide or not, I had the mentioned problem when comparing to running the same game from the PC's SSD.«, anyway.

 

[gamerman 5000]

What are "RED", "DNAS", "IOPRP", "CDVDSTM.IRX" and "DEV9.IRX" (among others) and why does a program called Ps2Load Injector exist when USBUtil already has an option called PS2Load opciones?

Regardless if it would provide or not, I had the mentioned problem when comparing to running the same game from the PC's SSD.«, anyway.

It's good that you ask and have concerns.

I suppose you are looking for more technical answers to which unfortunately I lack that information in this regard.
Maybe someone with more knowledge can answer them for you.

As for the "Ps2Load Injector" program, I didn't know about it but come on, I ask you, does the fact that there is a program that has a function mean that there shouldn't be others with the same function? "monopolies" can lead to "abuse" of it.

 

[RandomGuy2024]

It's good that you ask and have concerns.

I suppose you are looking for more technical answers to which unfortunately I lack that information in this regard.
Maybe someone with more knowledge can answer them for you.

As for the "Ps2Load Injector" program, I didn't know about it but come on, I ask you, does the fact that there is a program that has a function mean that there shouldn't be others with the same function? "monopolies" can lead to "abuse" of it.

I just find it odd and it gets users confused (like myself).

 

[gamerman 5000]

I just find it odd and it gets users confused (like myself).

Well, it doesn't seem strange to me, that is, it is not surprising that in addition to OPL there is PS2ESDL, different launchers with the same function.

 

[RandomGuy2024]

Well, it doesn't seem strange to me, that is, it is not surprising that in addition to OPL there is PS2ESDL, different launchers with the same function.

I wasn't talking about that but about different tools which do the same (USBUtil and Ps2Load Injector) but I also find it odd there are different launchers as well as different homebrew and homebrew mods which do the same (LE, LbF, LbFn, uLE, wLE, uLE/wLE_kHN, iLE/wLE_ISR, wLE ISR_HDD, smbLaunchElf, uLE 2-TB, uLE/wLE-HWC, etc.).

 

[gamerman 5000]

I wasn't talking about that but about different tools which do the same (USBUtil and Ps2Load Injector) but I also find it odd there are different launchers as well as different homebrew and homebrew mods which do the same (LE, LbF, LbFn, uLE, wLE, uLE/wLE_kHN, iLE/wLE_ISR, wLE ISR_HDD, smbLaunchElf, uLE 2-TB, uLE/wLE-HWC, etc.).

I still don't understand why it seems "strange" to you.
With that "logic" it would also be "strange" that there are different "commercial stores" and different "video game companies."
Does the word "marketing" sound familiar to you?