How to install NoBD CFW on OFW 4.65 with broken blue ray.

[daredevil86]

I am right now in a boot loop with update error at 76% with well known error (8002F14E) (error for broken blue ray drive) I wanted to update on 4.76 in that time i didn't knew that i need to have working blue ray drive to finish update. After 100 attepmpts i formated hdd and everything and still i am not able to install anymore firmware. I readed that there is a NOBD versions, so i tryed 4.70 and 4.76 but i got error "No Applicable update data was found" Flash Drive://PS3/UPDATE/CEXFERROX476NOBD.PHP and when i tryed to rename filename to PS3UPDAT.PUP then i got some error about corrupted data.
I hope someone could help me because 4 days i am killing myself to install any possible firmware with broken blueray drive and nothing.
Is there any way to install firmware without Blue Ray Drive?

My PS3 Model is FAT SONY PS3 CECH-G04 4.65 OFW was been before i bricked software

 

[jonnyjaeger]

Rule number 1. you can't install CFW on ANY OFW above 3.55

 

[daredevil86]

So if don't fix my blue ray there is no other way to install firmware?

 

[ed89]

So if don't fix my blue ray there is no other way to install firmware?

in general:

Rule number 2. You need a Compatibel PS3 you have PS3 Fat so its 100% Compatible Check

Rule number 3. you need a hardware flasher like E3 Flasher or Teensy ++ to downgrade your Firmware to OFW 3.55 so you can install ANY CFW (3.55, 4.21,4.76,4.78...)you want...

But I am not sure if you need a working Bluray drive to downgrade...

 

[kozarovv]

in general:

Rule number 2. You need a Compatibel PS3 you have PS3 Fat so its 100% Compatible Check

Rule number 3. you need a hardware flasher like E3 Flasher or Teensy ++ to downgrade your Firmware to OFW 3.55 so you can install ANY CFW (3.55, 4.21,4.76,4.78...)you want...

Rule number 4. Cech-G is NAND so only Teensy or Progskeet, not e3 flasher.

But I am not sure if you need a working Bluray drive to downgrade...

Rule number 5. You don't need bd drive to downgrade

 

[daredevil86]

Thank you for answers. OK so if i find someone who have Teensy and do for me downgrade to 3.55. What next? Do i need to install hardware ode cobra chipset or there is a way with software to jailbrake it? Because i wont be able to play games on discs because of broken blue ray, only from hdd. So only way for me to get this ps3 playable is to do a downgrade and then insert cobra chip? Or there is a cheaper way?

 

[ed89]

Rule number 4. Cech-G is NAND so only Teensy or Progskeet, not e3 flasher.



Rule number 5. You don't need bd drive to downgrade

Thanx good to know I was not sure so i waited till somebody else will post who knows it better!

Just wanted to help a little bit because here are always the same question and it would make tired to write always the same...

 

[ed89]

Thank you for answers. OK so if i find someone who have Teensy and do for me downgrade to 3.55. What next? Do i need to install hardware ode cobra chipset or there is a way with software to jailbrake it? Because i wont be able to play games on discs because of broken blue ray, only from hdd. So only way for me to get this ps3 playable is to do a downgrade and then insert cobra chip? Or there is a cheaper way?

Im not sure if you Cobra ODE will work without BD Drive and Cobra ODE has a lot of disadventages over a CFW
- Cobra ODE Cost too much 80-100 $
- you have to use a swap Disc technicue allways you change the Game not very userfriendly (after OFW4.55?)
- Cobra Team dont really support it anymore updates

So even if it would work i dont know if that is a good idea (imo not a good idea)

But of course you can search for information and try if you are happy with this not optimal solution...

 

[daredevil86]

Right now i am waiting shippment for cheap 15$ bluray drive for my model G04. And if that works and let me finish update i wont chip console i will play original games from discs, i can buy them cheap about 5-10$ per game.

 

[DeViL303]

Right now i am waiting shippment for cheap 15$ bluray drive for my model G04. And if that works and let me finish update i wont chip console i will play original games from discs, i can buy them cheap about 5-10$ per game.

Sorry for this bad news but you will still have to downgrade/install CFW if you want to install a new BD drive, as you will have to remarry the drive (they all have unique keys) . A new drive will let you do the update but it wont really help you as you need to get your console downgraded anyway to use it to play games again. You wont even be able to play CD's or launch any PSN games or apps from internal HDD without a married drive. Your only option is CFW if your current drive is truly broken.

Its possible your drive isn't connected properly, especially if you've opened your console but even if you havnt. Check power and ribbon cables both ends, could be power supply too. It doesn't matter if the laser doesn't work, just needs the main circuit board of the drive connected.

Thank you for answers. OK so if i find someone who have Teensy and do for me downgrade to 3.55. What next? Do i need to install hardware ode cobra chipset or there is a way with software to jailbrake it? Because i wont be able to play games on discs because of broken blue ray, only from hdd. So only way for me to get this ps3 playable is to do a downgrade and then insert cobra chip? Or there is a cheaper way?

Once you are on 3.55 you don't need to spend any money, no chips needed, you just use CFW from then on.

Also there is a lot more to CFW than just free games, I recommend you try it out.

 

[daredevil86]

You are saying that i won't be able to play any original games from CD? Even if i install new BD drive and use my logic board from my old blu ray? Are you sure even then?

 

[DeViL303]

You are saying that i won't be able to play any original games from CD? Even if i install new BD drive and use my logic board from my old blu ray? Are you sure even then?

Well if you have a working logic board then you would not be having problems updating, so I thought your logic board was dead. but if its fine then you should be good to go if you make one good drive out of the 2.

But like I say if your logic board is ok then im not sure where the problem is, the logic board is like the motherboard of the drive, there isn't much else to them except mechanicals and laser/motor. I have updated consoles with only the logic board attached loads of times, no laser motor etc, so the logic board is the only important bit afaik.

 

[daredevil86]

Well actuacly flat cable connector on my board is missing so i am improvising this with some peace of foam:

On this picture i didnt perfectly fit cable but i tryed different method and i done better

I know what all of you will say But i think i made good contact, before when i dont push enough cable with foam blu light wont even blink, but when i push strong enough with foam then blue led is blinking and bd drive is normaly taking discs and spining, but still wont finish updating

 

[DeViL303]

Well actuacly flat cable connector on my board is missing so i am improvising this with some peace of foam:


I know what all of you will say But i think i made good contact,

You DO know what we will say...

You are not making connection well enough, a piece of foam is not good enough, and a flashing blue light means nothing. there are like 48 pins that all need to make secure contact...


If you are going to improvise the clip you are going to have to do much much better than that. Like I say I have updated loads of ps3s with only the logic board attached, so it has to be your clip. You don't need the rest of the drive attached.
Anyway you will know for sure when you get your new drive, you can update with that board if it has the clip on the logic board, then you will know that your improvised clip wasn't working, then you will know you need to go to CFW or get that clip sorted properly.

 

[daredevil86]

The worst thing of all that is missing clip from the main mother board. not from blu ray. So even with new BD i will still improvise, if that wont help i will bring this to my friend who have good tools for electronic to soldered Pin from my old BD to attach to my mother board. I know that clips on mothrtnoard and blu ray are little different. But i hope it can be compatabile to soldered on motherboard?

 

[DeViL303]

The worst thing of all that is missing clip from the main mother board. not from blu ray. So even with new BD i will still improvise, if that wont help i will bring this to my friend who have good tools for electronic to soldered Pin from my old BD to attach to my mother board. I know that clips on mothrtnoard and blu ray are little different. But i hope it can be compatabile to soldered on motherboard?

OK, I see, thought you meant the drive end was dodgy. I doubt it but you can try, seems a lot of hassle and risk to your m/b when you could just pay some one like $50 to get you on 3.55 and then your are sorted with noBD firmware, something like this 4.76 noBD CFW by Alexander, no more costs, lots of extra features and you can use some one elses cfw ps3 to backup all your games to hdd.. that's what id do in your situation


EDIT: if you are going to try improvising again, you need something really thin, the same width as the ribbon cable that actually goes into the slot with the cable if its like some of my phat ps3s (very hard to improvise, I have tried before there was such a thing as noBD firmware), or try putting a good few kg of pressure on it with your thumb/fingers while updating but that wont help you play games. take the logic board off the drive for testing as the drive just gets in the way, you just need the power attached.

EDIT2: just realised from your picture you don't even have the white bit of the clip, I thought you meant just the black bit is missing. There isn't a hope of getting a 48pin connector to work by pushing the ribbon cable directly onto the motherboard with a piece of foam

Here is what my cechg connector looks like (just happened to have one open in front of me)

 

[daredevil86]

I think there is 60 pins not 48 if i correctly count, i am not sure Yea i know its very dificult. So you think with not working BD laser and mechanism just with only BD board it would be able to finish update even without bd laser?
BTW there is no such noBD OFW firmware, if first to downgrade to 3.55 and then i can install noBD CFW firmware. But without that connector no one can chip my console, i asked services i wanted to pay 50$ for chipping but they said that without that connector they can't attach chip that is the problem

 

[DeViL303]

I think there is 60 pins not 48 if i correctly count, i am not sure Yea i know its very dificult. So you think with not working BD laser and mechanism just with only BD board it would be able to finish update even without bd laser?

Yes 60pin, I couldn't be arsed counting them either that's why I said ""like 48" . You can update with just the board and use the console perfectly with just the board (obviously cant use discs).

Note: The reason the PS3 update fails when the drive is not connected is because it tries to update the firmware on the logic board, its NOT because it is checking to see if the drive is intact, it doesn't even check to see if the board is married to the console.

I have run a console like this for a long time back before there was noBD CFW

BTW there is no such noBD OFW firmware, if first to downgrade to 3.55 and then i can install noBD CFW firmware. But without that connector no one can chip my console, i asked services i wanted to pay 50$ for chipping but they said that without that connector they can't attach chip that is the problem

Correct, There is no OFW that is noBD unfortunately, only CFW.

I don't know what you mean by "chip" ?? ODE?

You just downgrade to 3.55 CFW noBD , then install latest noBD CFW or whatever you want. No chip needed, no need for that BD connector ever.

 

[daredevil86]

To downgrade i need Teensy 2.0++ tool and then console has to be chiped with COBRA ODE, one guy who is doing that told me that on this verson of console is very dificult to do that. I didn't knew that is possible to finish update without working BD laser. By chip or chipping i mean on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV3qsMb5kmQ
To be able to install ode cobra it need to be connected with flat cable to the main board, and you know i have missing connector for that.

 

[DeViL303]

To downgrade i need Teensy 2.0++ tool and then console has to be chiped with COBRA ODE, one guy who is doing that told me that on this verson of console is very dificult to do that. I didn't knew that is possible to finish update without working BD laser. By chip or chipping i mean on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV3qsMb5kmQ
To be able to install ode cobra it need to be connected with flat cable to the main board, and you know i have missing connector for that.

OK, I just didn't know if you meant ODE or not when you said chipping. I don't really see much point in ODE myself so havnt learnt much about it really. I don't think they can do anything that CFW cant do for free so whats the advantage? and cobra are not really updating/supporting it anymore I heard.