PS3 Is a low runtime 90nm fat worth using, or better to go straight to Frankie mod?

lucas1122

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I recently bought a a lot of 5 ps3 fats, 3 of them are A01 systems. I put CFW on all of them to check run times and temps. they have 34 days of use, 58 days, and 192 days between them.

The first thing I did after on all consoles was install webman MOD and set a fan curve to 66 c, then played a PS3 game (motorstorm apocalypse) and observed how fast the temperatures rose and the difference between CPU and GPU temps. Keep in mind I haven't repasted or cleaned any of them deliberately. What I wanted to see was what the temperatures MAY have been like on the system when it was used with Syscon fan control for all of its life, how loud would the fan get and how quickly (it may give an indication as to how many times the system was exposed to extreme heat cycles) What I noticed was that on the system with 58 days, the RSX was a good 8-10 degrees cooler than Cell, when the fan would ramp up to keep Cell at 66, the RSX was about 58. The 34 days runtime system was similar, but the RSX did not have as big of a delta between CPU temp. The 192 day system they were very close in temperature.

I know there are still some people who believe that 90nm RSX issues are overblown and not susceptible to the bumpgate issues. I don't really know enough to be decisive either, but I got to thinking that if the RSX fails because the substrate cracks with repeated hot/cold cycles, and we know that its not impossible for a 90nm RSX to live a long life (I saw one with 1400 days of use), then would a low runtime system like the 34 or 58 day systems that spent most of their life with the RSX temperatures decently lower than the CPU be the best possible candidate for a long-life RSX? Say with a really aggressive fan curve like 62, it should never get hot enough to that 70c range where the cracks start to form and then perhaps life a very long life?? I opened up the 58 day system to repaste and there was almost no dust inside, was untouched with warranty sticker, so It must have had a nice well ventilated life.

Maybe I'm going crazy and being hopeful because I really want to have a reliable system, but I'd like to know what other people think. I ask all this because I have been so close to buying pre-made 40nm A01s on eBay, modders have gotten really good at them and are making a killing selling them, and for reasonableish prices too. ($650) But I stop myself because I already have these working systems and I paid barely $100 for each, I just wish there was a way to make them reliable and thats not even getting started on the No ps2 issue thats becoming more common
 
One issue I want to note that you will have with a 40nm RSX is the fact that downgrading for example will always be an issue. If you have a Frankenstein PS3, you cannot go below 3.55 (approximately) without it bricking or not showing a signal.

Here's what I would do:
- replace the thermal paste on all of them
- clean the internals
- delid them (however there's lots of debate whether it's worth the risk. Ofc you can always get that done by a professional for example)
- take note of the temperature and adjust the fans accordingly.
- If you only want to play PS2 games on one of these I also recommend downgrading to version 1.02 (lowest possible), as I've seen a big drop in temperature on a CECHC04 just by downgrading it.

And from there just use it the way you want. I wouldn't worry too much, as you can always get it Frankensteined if YLOD eventually happens.

My CECHC04 (60GB European launch model) was working fine for a few weeks when I got it. It had 0 days of runtime since it was still sealed. Then it however got the YLOD. In my case, it was the NEC/Tokins failing as it was sitting new in the box for 15+ years and that degraded them.

Eventually I got the 40nm installed and replaced the NEC/Tokins.

In Europe, pronconsoles.nl does the Frankenstein mod quite well. I paid around 480 euros for the 40nm plus new capacitors.

Plus the 100$ you paid, it's around 630$, so best case you even saved some money.

Computerbooter would also be a good guy, heard lots of positive things about him, but haven't had any personal experience with him.

In conclusion: Do some proper maintenance and just use it, if it fails you can get the Frankenstein mod done anytime and I think you will even keep all of your data.

Here are some extra pics that Ed (proconsoles) sent me when he did the mod :-))
 

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