PS2 New Noctua NF-A6x15 for PS2

[seatran]

Have you ever tried the replacements? O Guess nôt because you would not write this. Original NOS fans does not exists and Direct replacements start to sound freaking like jet after just few hours of work. I tried diferent sources All are the same. In my setup i used old oem Can i just lubrikate the fan with sewing mashine oil. I will not go the router with the old thick noctua fan. This new thing fan mod IS in my opinion way better. I have the 3 d printed parts already Home just waiting for the fans. And it is definitely not too much effort to do it!

You are wrong. I have the 5000 series fan replacement in my 3000 series ps2. It is a remarkable improvement on the old stock fan in terms of noise. I have put it through it's paces and it is still pretty silent when compared to the old stock.

I did not opt to buy the noctua fans because of price and the fact that i had to have a bulging fan coming out of my ps2. The fan in OP's post is pretty good in the sense it keeps the original form of the ps2 intact but it still requires a 3D printer to print out the bracket. I am not going to spend more $$$ to buy a 3d printer, and also the material to 3d print just for a single bracket.

P.S I whole heartedly agree that the fan and 3d bracket in OP's post is likely the best solution for a ps2 fan. However using the 5000 series fan as an alternative replacement should not be discounted/dismissed

 

[Luisile]

Im Wrong? Tell that to the 15 replacement fans that are pure junk after a few hours. You dont need a 3d printer for it,I dont have 3d printer at home and i would also not spend money on it but we have 3dprinting service and is really affordable.

 

[seatran]

Im Wrong? Tell that to the 15 replacement fans that are pure junk after a few hours. You dont need a 3d printer for it,I dont have 3d printer at home and i would also not spend money on it but we have 3dprinting service and is really affordable.

Im saying you are wrong about me not trying the replacements....

I don't know where you are getting your fans from - but if we are talking about the same $10 fans that i bought from amazon then your description of the fans being junk after a few hours is pure hyperbole. Back on topic -

That's funny, I just replaced the 25mm 12v noctua with the 25mm 5v a few weeks ago after learning that the 12v model is not optimal. The 5v definitely moves more air. At least all I would have to do is drop it in if I decide to switch to the 15mm model. I already made an adapter to step the 7v to 5v and fit the PS2 fan plug. Should be easy enough to craft a simple mount for the 15mm.

Can you share more (e.g pics) of this adapter

 

[HyldenKing]

The fan in OP's post is pretty good in the sense it keeps the original form of the ps2 intact but it still requires a 3D printer to print out the bracket. I am not going to spend more $$$ to buy a 3d printer, and also the material to 3d print just for a single bracket.

You can print it for $2-3 on Chinese website. It's a small bracket, and you don't need anything fancy to spend on.

 

[uatora]

Im saying you are wrong about me not trying the replacements....

I don't know where you are getting your fans from - but if we are talking about the same $10 fans that i bought from amazon then your description of the fans being junk after a few hours is pure hyperbole. Back on topic -



Can you share more (e.g pics) of this adapter

I mostly followed the information here: [EDIT: i can't post links. Search online for "Playstation 2 Quiet Fan Mod - compatible with fans from 50x10mm to 60x25mm (Noctua)" with quotes. It's on printables*com]

[EDIT: The picture attached] is of the adapter. This is not my adapter but it's almost identical. The 10 ohm 1W resistor is on the red wire, and IIRC the red wire goes on the black wire on the PS2 OEM connector, and the black wire connects to the lighter grey OEM connector. I had to bend the metal flap under the power supply just a little to make the adapter fit.

[EDIT]
I'm not technically savvy. Is there a better way to adapt the fan to the PS2? I am aware of buck/boost converters. I'm concerned about the fan getting too little voltage when the HDD is not active (PS2 sends 5v to fan normally, 7v when HDD is active AFAIK)

 

[ragen-fio]

P.S I whole heartedly agree that the fan and 3d bracket in OP's post is likely the best solution for a ps2 fan. However using the 5000 series fan as an alternative replacement should not be discounted/dismissed

Yes I agree that the cheapest and fastest solution is to install the 11-blade Nidec from the 5000x series. Pretty the same fan is also found on the 15000 and 18000. Although I happened to find, I don't remember if it was a 30004R or a 35004, a Nidec 11-blade and the console had the seal intact.

This with the Noctua is a mod in my opinion not vital for the console except for the noise side and to brag about it, it probably makes much more sense to replace the thermal pad with something newer and more performing like i do sometimes.

 

[Luisile]

Yes I agree that the cheapest and fastest solution is to install the 11-blade Nidec from the 5000x series. Pretty the same fan is also found on the 15000 and 18000. Although I happened to find, I don't remember if it was a 30004R or a 35004, a Nidec 11-blade and the console had the seal intact.

This with the Noctua is a mod in my opinion not vital for the console except for the noise side and to brag about it, it probably makes much more sense to replace the thermal pad with something newer and more performing like i do sometimes.

Why it would be not vital? look at the spec it can move 23.4 m³/h What not vital about it? sure is more as oem.
im waiting on my and then i see what it can do. But saying it would be not vital is just brag about it.

 

[ragen-fio]

Why it would be not vital? look at the spec it can move 23.4 m³/h What not vital about it? sure is more as oem.
im waiting on my and then i see what it can do. But saying it would be not vital is just brag about it.

It is not vital because the PS2 is a console that has never suffered from overheating such as to require a fan with a better airflow, which could slightly lower the temperatures but even with the original fan there is no problem.

 

[Luisile]

It is not vital because the PS2 is a console that has never suffered from overheating such as to require a fan with a better airflow, which could slightly lower the temperatures but even with the original fan there is no problem.

IT is very vital as the oem fans go loud and the noctua fans have better airflow and almost no sound

 

[ragen-fio]

IT is very vital as the oem fans go loud and the noctua fans have better airflow and almost no sound

Well, there's to discuss about Noctua fans and being silent, especially if they run at maximum speed. In one of my PS2s, the 5V 25mm thick one is anything but silent, the only advantage it has is that it doesn't have that high-pitched hiss of the original fan, you can still hear it, but it's a noise on lower frequencies and less annoying. And I also have other Noctua fans in my PCs, so I know them well.

Anyway, we have a different concept of the word vital and there's no need to be so salty in the answers.

 

[nickxab]

Oooh finaly a fan that fits in there. Thanks for the info bro !
Even if this doesn't really help the flow more than the stock it makes less noise so it worth.

 

[ragen-fio]

I had some time to replace an "old" 25mm Noctua with the 15mm one, both 5V. The cable, which I had to loop around the fan to connect it to the 3 pin connector from the DC-DC converter, passes perfectly between the stock grill and the 3D printed support so as to remain blocked and not clutter the console.
I added some photos in the first post that I hope are somehow understandable.


This is the DC-DC converter I use:

 

[PatrikMcKane]

I had some time to replace an "old" 25mm Noctua with the 15mm one, both 5V. The cable, which I had to loop around the fan to connect it to the 3 pin connector from the DC-DC converter, passes perfectly between the stock grill and the 3D printed support so as to remain blocked and not clutter the console.
I added some photos in the first post that I hope are somehow understandable.


This is the DC-DC converter I use:

Nice!!

 

[Alfred0c]

CIao! Noctua has introduced the NF-A6x15, a new 60mm x 15mm thick fan that is perfect for the PS2 without having to print a new back panel like those who, like me, still use the NF-A6x25.

Out of curiosity, I bought the 3-pin 12V one, so it needs to be powered directly from the PS2 power supply, and to mount it I designed a simple 3D printed support. Compared to the original fan, it is quieter and has a better static pressure, even if the quality of the fan and the quantity of accessories justify it more than enough I'm not sure if the price (paid €17 on Amazon) justifies that increase in performance compared to the original fan.

But anyway, this will replace its thicker sister in my PS2TB.






This is the .STL file of the fan mount which is suitable for any 60x15mm fan not just Noctua, but it is only a prototype made very quickly and printed with basic settings to evaluate the size and functionality, I did not spend much time on it so it is largely susceptible to improvements and changes.

For 12V, i have designed this simple circuit. In the measurements, the console with the mains adapter delivered 5.2V and not 7V (SCPH-30000). The circuit uses the voltage from the fan's power port, to use it as a trigger for the 12V from the source. This allows the fan to not be always on when the console is in sleep mode (red "off" light).

I had some time to replace an "old" 25mm Noctua with the 15mm one, both 5V. The cable, which I had to loop around the fan to connect it to the 3 pin connector from the DC-DC converter, passes perfectly between the stock grill and the 3D printed support so as to remain blocked and not clutter the console.
I added some photos in the first post that I hope are somehow understandable.


This is the DC-DC converter I use:

If the fan is actually supplying 7V, it might be better to use this small device that supports between 7V and 35V to return a constant 5V. This way you avoid the fan being always on when the console is in sleep mode.

 

[psydefx]

You are wrong. I have the 5000 series fan replacement in my 3000 series ps2. It is a remarkable improvement on the old stock fan in terms of noise. I have put it through it's paces and it is still pretty silent when compared to the old stock.

I did not opt to buy the noctua fans because of price and the fact that i had to have a bulging fan coming out of my ps2. The fan in OP's post is pretty good in the sense it keeps the original form of the ps2 intact but it still requires a 3D printer to print out the bracket. I am not going to spend more $$$ to buy a 3d printer, and also the material to 3d print just for a single bracket.

P.S I whole heartedly agree that the fan and 3d bracket in OP's post is likely the best solution for a ps2 fan. However using the 5000 series fan as an alternative replacement should not be discounted/dismissed

i tried fitting the 50k fan in a 30k but the support holder doesnt fit, its different? how did you do it, did you break that part off?

 

[ragen-fio]

For 12V, i have designed this simple circuit. In the measurements, the console with the mains adapter delivered 5.2V and not 7V (SCPH-30000). The circuit uses the voltage from the fan's power port, to use it as a trigger for the 12V from the source. This allows the fan to not be always on when the console is in sleep mode (red "off" light).

If the fan is actually supplying 7V, it might be better to use this small device that supports between 7V and 35V to return a constant 5V. This way you avoid the fan being always on when the console is in sleep mode.

The PS2 fan is automatically powered at a fixed 7V when the hard drive is connected, in my case is always connected. And no it is not powered when the console is in standby, so it is fine as I did with the DC-DC converter that lowers the 7V to 5V for the fan.

 

[uatora]

Just because a NA / HDD is installed does not mean the fan will get a constant 7v. My 39001 sends 5v until the HDD is accessed by the PS2 in which it sends 7v, and will drop back to 5v if the HDD goes to sleep. I'm considering Alfred0c's circuit for my current build (have both the 5v and 12v noctua 25mm, 5v installed currently), want to put a 15mm/5v Noctua in my next 39k.

Would DC-to-DC be a better solution to drop 7v to 5v than just a resistor? I imagine the resistor also drops the 5v down a little bit. It seems like it would negligible but I just want to install it the best possible way.

 

[ragen-fio]

Just because a NA / HDD is installed does not mean the fan will get a constant 7v. My 39001 sends 5v until the HDD is accessed by the PS2 in which it sends 7v, and will drop back to 5v if the HDD goes to sleep.

On the 30k and 39k series it is like this, but on the 50k (like the ones I use this fan in) it is not. Years ago I noticed that just the Network Adapter is enough, even without a hard disk, to "trigger" the 7V to the fan, so the fan speed is fixed and independent of what the hard disk is doing or if it is connected.

Would DC-to-DC be a better solution to drop 7v to 5v than just a resistor? I imagine the resistor also drops the 5v down a little bit. It seems like it would negligible but I just want to install it the best possible way.

I used the DC-DC because I have a lot of them, so I didn't look for other solutions. In your case, however, you must take into account that when the PS2 powers the fan at 5V, both with a DC-DC and with a resistor the voltage will drop further and the fan could stop completely. Now I don't remember exactly the minimum operating voltage of the Noctua 5V, but I think it should be around +/- 3V, so you should decide accordingly. But if you want to use the diagram posted by Alfred0c previously I think you can skip this step completely. In my case, since the voltage is fixed, I didn't bother.

This is a mod that originally requires the use of a 12V fan and I believe that the choice fell on that model precisely to avoid this type of problem, given that it is mainly designed for the 30k and 39k.

 

[ragen-fio]

Recently I made an adapter to mount the Noctua in the SCPH-1x000 series.
There are some things I'd like to improve to strengthen it a bit (I printed it with PLA CF and I'll try with PETG CF), but the space inside the shell is limited, especially in height, and I'm at the limit with the maximum dimensions.

To power it, I'm undecided whether to use the fan connector, which supplies a voltage of 4.5V. From my tests, this voltage remains constant regardless of temperature and whether the hard drive is present or not. This Noctua is a 5V model, so it would run almost at full speed, which is a good thing considering that PS2 series gets quite hot. Or I should connect it to the PSU's 8.5V output and lower it to 5V with a DC-DC converter.
Perhaps the first option is the more elegant and less invasive one, but at the cost of losing come RPMs. We'll see if at 5V i'll gain something.

Measuring with an external probe applied between the heatsink fins, there is no difference in temperature between the two fans; the difference is in the noise, which, again, is less annoying with the Noctua.