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Lascif said:
Nothing else was changed in that menu


I have already been able to mount games and play them with Multiman alone fine


02.02.01



There is a toggle above the webman toggle but it just has an option that says "Debug Menu Type" with two options of "CEX QA" and "DEX"
The one that is already selected is CEX QA

When I toggle webman, the only thing that comes up is telling me it's restarting the console


Just use the same CFW I installed at the start?

Also I really appreciate this guys :) If you would like me to add photos or video just let me know.
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Ok you are using the wrong toolbox!
I told you twice already the version is 02.02.09.
Download from rebug.me website or you csn find the pkg in /dev_flash/Rebug/package. Use mmOS to get it.
Everything missing will be there..

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kozarovv said:
Always install toolbox included in firmware, never older one. That is why you have QA problem.
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This appears to be the culprit to why it wasn't started up.

I needed to update the REBUG toolbox and enable Webman, COBRA and XMB CFW Settings. It now launches.

However I am getting a new error when Netflix is loading(Spinning Icon).

"Error NW-2-5"
 
Lascif said:
This appears to be the culprit to why it wasn't started up.

I needed to update the REBUG toolbox and enable Webman, COBRA and XMB CFW Settings. It now launches.

However I am getting a new error when Netflix is loading(Spinning Icon).

"Error NW-2-5"
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yes, rebug spoofs the hdd as the package install location since u can't install from the flash directly despite rebug toolbox being in the flash. good luck.
 
Lascif said:
This appears to be the culprit to why it wasn't started up.

I needed to update the REBUG toolbox and enable Webman, COBRA and XMB CFW Settings. It now launches.

However I am getting a new error when Netflix is loading(Spinning Icon).

"Error NW-2-5"
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Yiu should vopy the toolbox pkg file from /dev_flash/rebug/package to your fat32 usb stick using multimam (mCM) mmOS.
Install from there.

In the Toolbox change all to CEX (menu mide... No debug no DEX.
Do everything in CEX for the moment.

You can enable QA now too.

Ok so now Cobra is working which means you can start webman setup.. Set the dynamic fan control, temperature should be set to 60-65.
Try it. Mount a game with webMan

Then try launching multiman it should change to mCM. Mount a game with mCM.

Launch gamed to make sure things are ok.

Once done.
Remove Netflic & reinstall the pkg. Test again

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Lascif said:
This appears to be the culprit to why it wasn't started up.

I needed to update the REBUG toolbox and enable Webman, COBRA and XMB CFW Settings. It now launches.

However I am getting a new error when Netflix is loading(Spinning Icon).

"Error NW-2-5"
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This can be error due to changed np setting to invalid, or some locked ports on router/isp.

Edit: Or psnpach/webman are locking network access.
 
kozarovv said:
This can be error due to changed np setting to invalid, or some locked ports on router/isp.

Edit: Or psnpach/webman are locking network access.
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Yes either your network or your settings..
Have you set np back? (if not, re enable Debug menu again & change it!)
What brews are installed on your PS3?


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bguerville said:
Yes either your network or your settings..
Have you set np back? (if not, re enable Debug menu again & change it!)
What brews are installed on your PS3?
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That was fantastic man!

Did all of that, sorry for not keeping you up to date but I was doing everything you said.

It all works absolutely fine now!

I do have a separate two questions.

1. The PS3 idles high or at least it seems high to me 65-75C. Would it be recommended to reapply thermal paste to the cooler and possibly a fan mod?

2. What does webMAN exactly do? Can I have my PS3 ISOs backed up on my PC HDD and allow the PS3 to access it through the LAN and run the games straight that way? Or would it still require me to copy them over to the PS3s local HDD?

And most of all thank you and anybody else who helped, who helped me set this up. I've been away from the PS3 modding scene for like 6 years so everything's different to me :)
 
60C is around 140F which is where u want to be with both the ps3 and the 360. slightly above that is nothing to worry about that though.
 
pinky said:
yes, rebug spoofs the hdd as the package install location since u can't install from the flash directly despite rebug toolbox being in the flash. good luck.
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What rebug did was just for convenience I think, they set it up so the toolbox package installs to flash with the pup, but then added it to the "PS3 System Storage" section just to save adding another section to the package manager just for a single pkg on flash, I don't think there is any real limitation on installing pkgs from flash except its size and the fact you need to enable dev_blind to add them. but if you add a custom path to any folder , and then put a pkg there it will install as far as I remember from testing back in the early XMBM+ days.
 
pinky said:
yes, rebug spoofs the hdd as the package install location since u can't install from the flash directly despite rebug toolbox being in the flash. good luck.
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REBUG inserted this line into the category_game.xml/category_game_tool2.xml
Code: 
<Query class="type:x-xmb/xmlpackagefolder" key="host_provider_flash" src="host://localhost/q?path=/dev_flash/rebug/packages&suffix=.pkg&subclass=x-host/package"/>
as to why it shows up for install, you can also double click on it in mmOS in which multiMAN will move it to either usb/hdd depending on your insall selection
 
bitsbubba said:
REBUG inserted this line into the category_game.xml/category_game_tool2.xml
Code: 
<Query class="type:x-xmb/xmlpackagefolder" key="host_provider_flash" src="host://localhost/q?path=/dev_flash/rebug/packages&suffix=.pkg&subclass=x-host/package"/>
as to why it shows up for install, you can also double click on it in mmOS in which multiMAN will move it to either usb/hdd depending on your insall selection
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Yeah, any path can be added for pkgs on flash on any CFW by just modding the xml. I remember trying to see how many I could get on there, back when fw was smaller. :)

Multiman moves it first? didn't know that, wonder why.
 
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DeViL303 said:
Yeah, any path can be added for pkgs on flash on any CFW by just modding the xml.

Multiman moves it first? didn't know that, wonder why.
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it'll either move it to usb root or hdd packages folder for normal XMB install or create a bubble install (also from XMB)
 
I'm talking about this:

Code: 
<View id="seg_install_files_hdd0_path">
    <Items>
        <Query class="type:x-xmb/xmlpackagefolder" key="host_provider_flash" src="host://localhost/q?path=/dev_flash/rebug/packages&suffix=.pkg&subclass=x-host/package"/>		  
        <Query class="type:x-xmb/xmlpackagefolder" key="host_provider_hdd0" src="host://localhost/q?path=/dev_hdd0/packages&suffix=.pkg&subclass=x-host/package"/>		  
    </Items>
</View>
 
pinky said:
I'm talking about this:

Code: 
<View id="seg_install_files_hdd0_path">
    <Items>
        <Query class="type:x-xmb/xmlpackagefolder" key="host_provider_flash" src="host://localhost/q?path=/dev_flash/rebug/packages&suffix=.pkg&subclass=x-host/package"/>		  
        <Query class="type:x-xmb/xmlpackagefolder" key="host_provider_hdd0" src="host://localhost/q?path=/dev_hdd0/packages&suffix=.pkg&subclass=x-host/package"/>		  
    </Items>
</View>
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yeah, that's the bit I mean, they've just added it to the PS3 System storage section of the package manger section of the xml for convenience, otherwise there would be another folder in package manager with just 1 pkg in it, its not because you cant install from flash directly. for example you can create a new section on any cfw and add any flash path and call it "dev_flash" on the XMB if you want, they just chose to call it "ps3 system storage" so it covers hdd and flash I think.

The seg_install_files_hdd0_path reference means nothing really, you can call the segments anything you like.
 
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DeViL303 said:
yeah, that's the bit I mean, they've just added it to the PS3 System storage section of the package manger section of the xml for convenience, otherwise there would be another folder in package manager with just 1 pkg in it, its not because you cant install from flash directly. for example you can create a new section on any cfw and add any flash path and call it "dev_flash" on the XMB if you want, they just chose to call it "ps3 system storage" so it covers hdd and flash I think.

The seg_install_files_hdd0_path reference means nothing really, you can call the segments anything you like.
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PS3 System Storage is what $0nY renamed the the hdd to about 7 or 8 updates ago
 
bitsbubba said:
PS3 System Storage is what $0nY renamed the the hdd to about 7 or 8 updates ago
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Ok, so Rebug did the same. I do remember they used to call it hdd even though they had the added flash path too. Anyway I was just pointing out for people who might read this down the line that there is no technical reason why you cant install pkgs directly from flash, there isnt a spoof required or anything like that, they just called it hdd/system storage on the XMB basically and grouped the 2 devices together for tidiness I think, 99% of people don't need to know or care that the toolbox isnt on hdd really so they didn't mention it. :)
 
Lascif said:
That was fantastic man!

Did all of that, sorry for not keeping you up to date but I was doing everything you said.

It all works absolutely fine now!

I do have a separate two questions.

1. The PS3 idles high or at least it seems high to me 65-75C. Would it be recommended to reapply thermal paste to the cooler and possibly a fan mod?

2. What does webMAN exactly do? Can I have my PS3 ISOs backed up on my PC HDD and allow the PS3 to access it through the LAN and run the games straight that way? Or would it still require me to copy them over to the PS3s local HDD?

And most of all thank you and anybody else who helped, who helped me set this up. I've been away from the PS3 modding scene for like 6 years so everything's different to me :)
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Ok webMAN-MOD is what most people use nowadays.
It replaces any backup managers.

You can either put your iso games on internal hdd or external hdd (fat32 or ntfs) in folder PS3ISO. (you can also use PS2 games in PS2ISO, some ps1 & psp too).
It's also pissible to use JB format instead of ISO (basically you extract the iso contents) in which case it goes into the GAMES folder.

As you asked you can also use webman to mount iso games from your PC or NAS or network share through LAN or wifi using a software called ps3netsrv (there is a GUI for ps3netsrv as well).
Run ps3netsrv on PC, mount a share.
Go to webMAN-MOD setup page & check the box scan for LAN games, put your pc ip address then save & reboot.
The games on your PC should now be listed in webMAN-MOD games & you can use them just like an internal game!

As far as the temperature is concerned, as I said earlier, in webman setup page you should set dynamic fan control then choose auto at a value comprised between 60 & 65.
The reason your PS3 heated up is likely because when you used the ps3 without cobra webman did not work & the fan control didn't either!
When you make changes to the setup page don't forget to save (button at bottom of page) then reboot.
You should read about webMAN-MOD carefully in the webMAN-MOD general information thread. Look for it, lot to learn...

You can access the setup from your PC too by using hxxp://ps3 ip address/setup.ps3 or on the ps3 with localhost/setup.ps3
WebMAN-MOD is updated often so don't forget to update from time to time (just check the thread for new releases)

Also be careful if you want to go online. Do some research about PSNPatch & how to use it to protect yourself from a ban if you sign in PSN.

Don't hesitate to contact us again for more help. However do some research on your own too, it's the best way to learn. When you are really stuck then we are here to help...

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