PS3 Please add support for OFW 4.89

Timbo9876 said:
Well that's odd, on the main page it asks for donations via PayPal and it says it will help fund all the projects within PS3 exploit. Are you telling me my donation has gone to the wrong place? This is why he hasn't got many donations as everyone would donate on the main page.
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There are two ps3xploit projects and each one receives separate donations. If you donated through the .com site then yes, it went to the "wrong" site (I put that in quotes because if I understand correctly the .com is related to HEN). If you want to support bgtoolset you have to donate through .net.
 
@Timbo9876 ...here is Bguerville taking on this thread about the differences, see his post here:-

bguerville said:
**ps3xploit.com >Domain no Longer owned by team** (ps3xploit.me =new) is managed by esc0, it provides HEN, HAN and most other projects the team worked on at some point or other. Donations go to esc0 for **ps3xploit.com >Domain no Longer owned by team** (ps3xploit.me =new) maintenance and costs.

** ** www.ps3xploit.net > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com) > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com is the home of my PS3 Toolset which is my own personal project.
I just use the ps3xploit team umbrella to host it. Donations go to me for ** ** www.ps3xploit.net > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com) > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com maintenance and costs.
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NiQ said:
What's the current donation status anyway? How much do you need to keep the lights on for another 3 years?
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Assuming that the Toolset project remains accessible by the public, the required funding depends on a few things, including whether or not we merge **ps3xploit.com >Domain no Longer owned by team** (ps3xploit.me =new) and .net hosting (which we might end up doing eventually in October, we are currently talking about it).

I will try to keep things simple, without merger, for a proper setup, better than the current one because the Toolset may potentially begin to support all fw versions from 4.10 up, I estimate the next renewal bill for .net to be something like this for a 3 year basis:

220 unlimited shared hosting (using a 50% lifetime discount I have with the hosting company, it should normally be 450)
270 custom SSL certificate
720 cloudflare pro
= that's about 1200 bucks (400 per year) to pay upfront.
That doesn't include domain name renewals, for now the domain names are handled by esc0 and I cannot remember how much they cost, .net shouldn't really cost more than 30 bucks for 3 years or something like that but I dunno the exact figure.

Currently the donations received through ** ** www.ps3xploit.net > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com) > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com to cover the hosting renewal amount to about 600 bucks (some donations went to **ps3xploit.com >Domain no Longer owned by team** (ps3xploit.me =new) too, hard to tell when it's a mistake or not, it does not matter anyway, esc0 needs donations as much as I do at the end of the day).
Thanks to all donators, on behalf of everyone else.
You should know that there were few donors overall, 2 or 3 donors provided half the total amount. It is not a good sign for the long term, it means that the greatest majority by far don't care at all, for the same result, it would be a lot healthier for the community if 300 people had donated 2 bucks each IMHO.

If donations don't reach 1200 bucks, choices would have to be made, we would probably have to give up on the Cloudflare services the site needs, keeping in mind that attacks are quite frequent on both domains (DDOS, flooding attempts etc..), probably more so on .com.

With the merger, well it would depend on how we decide to handle domains (keep only one domain?) and SSL for .com projects and files, because to add SSL support to the .com services if we keep 2 domains we would need either an additional cert or a multi domain SSL certificate which is about 3 times more expensive and only makes sense when you host files with SSL for 3+ domains.
Alternatively we could also use one domain and 2 sub domains then use a wildcard SSL certificate (about twice the price of a regular cert).
Also, if we merge, it will be more problematic to do without Cloudflare Pro, a target figure of 1400 or 1500 would have to be reached in full for any merger to go ahead in October.

Btw I estimated the cost of the community hosting concept I mentioned before, to consolidate console related scenes hosting on the long term to about 1800 to 2000 bucks every 3 years for shared hosting with unlimited storage & bandwidth, unlimited number of domains and sites, as well as custom SSL support compatible with most consoles with browsers..

Not much more than what we need to set up a ps3xploit site merger, in truth, the more I consider that idea, the more I think it would be by far the best decision all round for the community.. at the condition it organises to fund and manage it.
1000 people giving 60 cents each year, that's roughly what's needed to fund such a service, offering all devs and contributors free hosting with long term visibility without taking on responsibilities or commitments, in other words the community would take on the burden collectively and let those guys focus solely on their game ie development.
Of course, it would also require a few people, with some hosting experience if possible, to take turns in holding the hosting creds, vetting new projects and contributors, adding new sites, a little admin work and host housekeeping from time to time, nothing crucial once the host has been properly set up.
I don't think finding a few trusted people to handle that stuff in turns would be very difficult, the job shouldn't be very time consuming.

NiQ said:
Also is that the only issue preventing the 4.89 update other things as well (I don't need it personally but this will definitely be needed if the tool is going to remain online).
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No it's not, the renewal is in October, until then the site is up and running.
The main issue is security, I don't want to roll out the planned 1.2 update because the leak risk is too great.
I don't want to go over the top on a fool's errand, js and actionscript cannot be fully protected, period, if skilled hackers wish to get hold of it, there is nothing much you can do about it. But then again, I cannot leave things as they are, it would be too easy for less skilled people to get hold of private files now that related data has been leaked and they are the most likely to try, so I am still pondering over what to do about it.
I never tried to secure the site in the first place, I felt there was no need, skilled hackers have little or nothing to gain by leaking my work, it's freely accessible and it gets updated regularly, it would only be to spite me and I doubt that any of them would bother or have reasons to, especially that I said many times that anyone wishing to build upon my work could contact me to discuss code sharing and possibly opening the source entirely if the project was good enough to warrant that, consequently the security has always been minimal, just enough to discourage script kiddies and the likes. It lasted 2 years without breach, considering the very low key and flawed PHP security, I should probably be happy enough with that though, like I said before, Murphy's law, whatever can happen will eventually happen if you wait long enough.

Regarding support for 4.89, I could add it to the live 1.1 Toolset version without any other changes, I am taking time off right now but when I can I will do it, it shouldn't take long, it's a trivial addition, the existing code is ready for it, at most a few minutes to make the code changes. However I never release anything that's untested so I will have to ask esc0 to test my modifications before they go live..
 
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immortalsinns said:
its people like you that kill the scene these guys deserve great respect for all they have done for the scene
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Ptilouis said:
I said what I think if you don't like it that's not my problem
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Please let's focus on the problems at hand and on the future, there's enough blame to go all round, everyone shares in the responsibility for the current situation in which the community finds itself, this is not a Toolset only problem but a much wider issue that has been ignored for far too long, riding on the misplaced hope that there will always be someone to sort shit out, take responsibility for everyone else and pay for it too.
That is true for the Toolset, for HEN, for community forums, for the wiki, and it used to be true for rebug.me or devil303.com which shut down recently as well as many other sites and online resources/services providers that ceased their activity abruptly in the past 10 years.
The problem is exposed quite clearly, now the community must move forward, make its choices, I believe any discord would only set us back in this process.
 
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bguerville said:
Food for thoughts.

In 24 months of existence, ** ** www.ps3xploit.net > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com) > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com received 227 bucks in donations from 29 people, I would like to express my sincerest thanks to them, it goes without saying but it's better said, you know who you are.

The ** ** www.ps3xploit.net > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com) > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com hosting/domain costs of the first 3 years have barely been covered by donations to date, the renewal in October is still a question mark.

During those 2 years, ** ** www.ps3xploit.net > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com) > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com served dozens of thousands of PS3 users all over the world with very little down time, I don't have the exact numbers in front of me right now, but it's a fair amount.
The server was attacked several times over that time and the Toolset was hacked at least once, possibly more, nothing unusual for a project that can never really be secure by nature.

I have always said that the PS3 Toolset was first and foremost a private project for the long term, the repository of the various tools I would develop on the way to attempting to gain full control of all models from OFW, that hasn't changed, the ambition is still intact.

What has changed though is that what I had hoped to be a private project whose usage would be shared with the public has become a weight on my shoulders.
Making public release worthy tools takes 10x longer or more than what I would spend for myself privately, hence the recurring delays.
If we add to this, first that funding is a constant problem because there's not enough donations to keep the project alive, and second the fact that I now also have to worry about security due to scammers, wannabes and fellow hackers redistributing and/or rebranding my code.
It's becoming a burden I am not sure I want to keep bearing alone, not forgetting Jason who gets a share of it too.

Consequently I have decided to put all public projects releases on hold for the time being while I consider my options and the fate of the PS3 Toolset project sharing concept.

The PS3 Toolset 1.2 update roll out is cancelled, it will remain private at least temporarily as I will not deploy it so it gets pillaged again..
Some might say, this will send people over to clones or whatever, I really don't care, the size of the user base has never been a priority for me so there's no down side, people will do whatever pleases them and live thereafter with the consequences of their choices, just like I do, and that seems fair to me.
As long as they understand they will have to get their tech support, updates and new features from someone else too from then on, I don't have a problem with it, good luck to them.
Finally, instead of the planned 1.2 rollout, I might just add 4.89 support to Toolset 1.1 at some point and leave things at that without fixes or new features until further notice.

As for the Toolset users, I want to say to them it's been quite fun to develop all this, some of it I made for you guys, not for me, you owe me nothing though, I wanted to give you as best I could, that was the whole point behind the extra work and all in all I am quite proud of all the progressive achievements culminating privately in Toolset 1.2.
It's been a chaotic but instructive ride, however it seems to me that we find ourselves at a crossroads, you and me all have a choice to make, the project needs help to remain online, support the project and you might see it live or don't and you definitely won't, your support or lack thereof will carry much weight in my decision.
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Do we just donate at home page of ps3xploit?
 
Jerhyn867 said:
Do we just donate at home page of ps3xploit?
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If you want to donate to bgtoolset use paypal to donate to team@** ** www.ps3xploit.net > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com) > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com
If you want to donate to HEN, use paypal.me/nopsn

They work together but they are distinct, and the opposite in the inverse sense LOL.
 
bguerville said:
Well then, in that case, it will be very simple for me to decide, and they'll get from me the exact same contribution they decided to make at their end ie nothing at all.
Up to them, I am not at all bothered, remember that I am not the one who relies on others to write the ps3 tools I need here, they are, so good luck to them finding someone else to do the work, given the current state of the scene, I wouldn't hold my breath if I were them.
Funny how I expected that kind of post, typical..
Don't count on me to help with any of that.
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i would like to make a donation on the great work you've provided. how do i do so? sorry i'm new to the scene but since i've joined all of your efforts and other modders made having a ps3 petty damn sweet and i want to show my appreciation
 
Wesker said:
i would like to make a donation on the great work you've provided. how do i do so? sorry i'm new to the scene but since i've joined all of your efforts and other modders made having a ps3 petty damn sweet and i want to show my appreciation
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use paypal to donate to team@** ** www.ps3xploit.net > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com) > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com
 
Hi
I'm still very new to this site and using cfw.
In that time I've put hen on one ps3 and cfw on two playstations. I've since then been out of touch with what's going on.

In the last few days I have purchased another ps3 that I plan on installing cfw on.
It is on ofw 4.89. I didn't know that I cant use the bgtool set on 4.89 so I came here for help and stumbled upon this thread.

Reading it has really opened my eyes and I really want to donate as I would hate to lose what we have. Especially as my love for the ps3 has increased so much since discovering ps3exploit. I can make a small donation now then will make a bigger one once I can afford to.
 
IanC said:
Hi
I'm still very new to this site and using cfw.
In that time I've put hen on one ps3 and cfw on two playstations. I've since then been out of touch with what's going on.

In the last few days I have purchased another ps3 that I plan on installing cfw on.
It is on ofw 4.89. I didn't know that I cant use the bgtool set on 4.89 so I came here for help and stumbled upon this thread.

Reading it has really opened my eyes and I really want to donate as I would hate to lose what we have. Especially as my love for the ps3 has increased so much since discovering ps3exploit. I can make a small donation now then will make a bigger one once I can afford to.
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i had same situation... im with you bro i can donate a small amount to (•̀ᴗ•́)و
 
nanospeedgamer said:
I hope you send me s and paypal so I can make a donation
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** ** www.ps3xploit.net > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com) > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com receives paypal donations made to team@** ** www.ps3xploit.net > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com) > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com

@bguerville it would be easier if you setup a paypal.me link. It is very easy to create.
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Setting up your link is easy! Just visit PayPal.Me to select your PayPal.Me Link and create your account. If you're not a PayPal user you'll be required to create one when signing-in.
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aldostools said:
@bguerville it would be easier if you setup a paypal.me link. It is very easy to create.
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I used to have one before actually but for some reason, when I changed donations email, 2 years ago or so, I never created another one, I cannot recall why I didn't, I probably figured that team@** ** www.ps3xploit.net > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com) > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com was straightforward enough and quite easy to remember. But I can always add a PayPal.me link or start using a more explicit email like donations@** ** www.ps3xploit.net > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com) > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com or donation@** ** www.ps3xploit.net > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com) > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com if that would help.
 
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nanospeedgamer said:
Hello! I did not know that the code was stolen, I am going to delete my video and donate an amount to your website, I have written to you privately on twitter, I hope you send me s and paypal so I can make a donation
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I don't use Twitter or any other "social" network.
All the donations details can be found on the ** ** www.ps3xploit.net > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com) > Domain no Longer owned by team** (NEW URL = http://ps3toolset.com home page (in the home tab accordion) available from any browser.
 
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