[POC/Outdated] unofficial Open PS2 Loader (uOPL)

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mathieulh said:
I found a bug, setting the background color has no effect.
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Thank you! Someone can actually PR a fix for this one pretty easy - as it is using an image by default instead of the plasma.

UPLOAD HAS BEEN CONSTRICTED TO CONCEPTUAL RELEASE - OPL DEVELOPMENT SEEMS UNINTERESTED IN THESE FEATURES, AND THUS, COMPETING BRANCHES ARE NOT THE WAY FORWARD.
 
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The SDK is cursed.
The Devs are open about their lack of interest in fixing/working on OPL. Take a look at the last 50 beta builds for reference.
The collaborative effort for innovative features has been selective and exclusive among different groups.
Basically, those capable of *fixing* or *enhancing* OPL have no desire to do so - and actively promote not using it all together with the suggestion of Neutrino despite its limitations.

uOPL was originally and always supposed to be a path to merging features, after extensive working of uOPL, to the Official OPL.
When this no longer became a plausible outcome, the work became pointless as it would never be embraced as a feature while developers at the same time actively work against its growth and promote any other neutrino GUI option.

In short - neutrino clearly aims to be the definitive loader over time, and all efforts seem to be shifting to that.
It doesn't matter what I think - I do not have the knowledge to contribute or develop these things.

If developers are only going to embrace neutrino, then in the long run we all should too - development is wasted when splintered and we end up with inconsistent standards or results.

The Neutrino Core option of uOPL wast incorporate this shift to Neutrino, while still providing the perks and satisfaction of the OPL interface for users. Unfortunately, this does not seem to be "praised" in the sense that others like NHDDL or Neutrino Launcher Plugin are praised.

Rather than get your hopes up, we have two options:
Follow the leaders
or
Learn to code
 
Ripto said:
The SDK is cursed.
The Devs are open about their lack of interest in fixing/working on OPL. Take a look at the last 50 beta builds for reference.
The collaborative effort for innovative features has been selective and exclusive among different groups.
Basically, those capable of *fixing* or *enhancing* OPL have no desire to do so - and actively promote not using it all together with the suggestion of Neutrino despite its limitations.

uOPL was originally and always supposed to be a path to merging features, after extensive working of uOPL, to the Official OPL.
When this no longer became a plausible outcome, the work became pointless as it would never be embraced as a feature while developers at the same time actively work against its growth and promote any other neutrino GUI option.

In short - neutrino clearly aims to be the definitive loader over time, and all efforts seem to be shifting to that.
It doesn't matter what I think - I do not have the knowledge to contribute or develop these things.

If developers are only going to embrace neutrino, then in the long run we all should too - development is wasted when splintered and we end up with inconsistent standards or results.

The Neutrino Core option of uOPL wast incorporate this shift to Neutrino, while still providing the perks and satisfaction of the OPL interface for users. Unfortunately, this does not seem to be "praised" in the sense that others like NHDDL or Neutrino Launcher Plugin are praised.

Rather than get your hopes up, we have two options:
Follow the leaders
or
Learn to code
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Personally, I think that they have done a lot in giving us versions 1.0.0 and 1.1.0 and boy did they work hard, I feel comfortable with those versions and I never need to use beta versions, they could well have been the definitive versions (disabling options of extra load like MX4SIO that are more like "luxuries").

So I wouldn't go ahead and say that years of work is going to stop being used as if nothing had been achieved just because it doesn't receive "updates".

I would eliminate the fallacy of the false dilemma and add a third option.

3.-You can continue using OPL and use other launchers such as neutrino to complement incompatible games and there better be more launch options, don't you think?

It's not like it's all over, Ripto friend.
 
I didn't say the existing releases were bad.
They are outdated and limited in what they support off the modern advancements taking place in ps2 homebrew.
I didn't say they didn't do phenomenal work, I said it's clear the primary focus of development is no longer OPL.

I'm a fan of OPL, and I wanted to see it grow with us rather than fall behind.
I can perform tests and document things but I'm no developer.
I may throw up a bounty. But I have a feeling the guys capable, will not care about a bounty.

uOPL is a preview of what *could* be, if the goals were mutual among the capable.
So I guess you're right, there are 3 options:

1. Learn to code
2. Use limited features on old software
3. Follow development direction

Or of course, all 3. (When it could be all in one)

At the end of the day, I can't validate my disappointment.
If I truly want to see these advancements, I can only blame my own lack of knowledge baring me from implementing change myself.

You're not wrong, but innovation doesn't come from being satisfied.
 
Ripto said:
I didn't say the existing releases were bad.
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I never said that you said that, friend, if you look closely I said "I wouldn't go ahead and say that years of work are going to go unused as if nothing had been achieved." I didn't say because they are bad, but I said and I quote "just because they don't receive updates"

Ripto said:
I didn't say they didn't do phenomenal work, I said it's clear the primary focus of development is no longer OPL.
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Again I never mentioned that you said they "didn't do a phenomenal job" I was just giving my opinion since I said and I quote "personally..."

As for the other thing, I see that you did not understand my approach. Well, while the developers tell you "don't use it anymore" I tell you "you have more launcher options to choose from."

I don't see it as reasonable to throw years of work "overboard" just to catch up.

In short, the greater the number of launcher options, the greater game compatibility you will have.

You speak to me from a point of view of the developer community, I speak to you from a point of view of the player user community.
and you will find it incredible that they even have to change to OPL version 0.9.3 to make some games compatible.
 
gamerman 5000 said:
I never said that you said that, friend, if you look closely I said "I wouldn't go ahead and say that years of work are going to go unused as if nothing had been achieved." I didn't say because they are bad, but I said and I quote "just because they don't receive updates"



Again I never mentioned that you said they "didn't do a phenomenal job" I was just giving my opinion since I said and I quote "personally..."

As for the other thing, I see that you did not understand my approach. Well, while the developers tell you "don't use it anymore" I tell you "you have more launcher options to choose from."

I don't see it as reasonable to throw years of work "overboard" just to catch up.

In short, the greater the number of launcher options, the greater game compatibility you will have.

You speak to me from a point of view of the developer community, I speak to you from a point of view of the player user community.
and you will find it incredible that they even have to change to OPL version 0.9.3 to make some games compatible.
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You have an accurate point of view.
All gains are good.
I have a lot to learn if I ever want to see these types of features go mainstream lol
It's just frustrating. There is unrefined gold here.
 
Ripto said:
You have an accurate point of view.
All gains are good.
I have a lot to learn if I ever want to see these types of features go mainstream lol
It's just frustrating. There is unrefined gold here.
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I have seen your learning evolution and it is surprising, if you put your mind to it and have determination, of course you will learn the same thing that you learned with the OPL topics friend.
 
Moronz said:
>Coverflow/Horizontal Game Listings
Is there a way to install this on other OPL loaders?
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Sadly, official OPL does not have these theme functions and so there is no way to create a theme which supports them.
 
Ripto said:
Sadly, official OPL does not have these theme functions and so there is no way to create a theme which supports them.
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I see, well I tried using it but it never worked properly. I set this theme in the setting and saved the changes but everytime I quit this uOPL the setting was resset and had to change the setting again
And was I reported for or semi banned? My post took too long to appear
 
Moronz said:
I see, well I tried using it but it never worked properly. I set this theme in the setting and saved the changes but everytime I quit this uOPL the setting was resset and had to change the setting again
And was I reported for or semi banned? My post took too long to appear
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Sadly there's just not enough information/reports to really figure out what the compatibility variables are.

I have recieved messages from users who can't launch any games at all, to users whom have been able to launch their games and even use the neutrino core successfully.

Unfortunately the project has no developer or interested developer.
All efforts have shifted to Neutrino and its many GUI options.
NHDDL is another fantastic option for users.
Maybe in time, it too will have the visual and functionalities of uOPL.
 
The apps page makes popstarter look so good. I might use this just for ps1 since my hdd is a hit or miss showing its ps2 games on uOPL. I like the seperate .cfg file so I can set its default the APPS page.

Only the black variant starts in coverflow, the white variant is unable to remain set in its coverflow theme which is a bummer. Disabling bgm in the settings is needed to launch games in my case, same for exit or power off from menu. The loading icons are nice but overall the white uOPL is premium.

With a few changes for 480i friendly icons and full set of updated sounds these could really be on the verge of design perfection. Functionally the favourites page had let me down with crashes and spotty saving but its implementation is smart and promising. I dont know why my hdd would show up empty sometimes and ive noticed the two versions clash on the new .cfg causing some text discrepancies, which was easily fixed in the menu.

Seeing realtime reflections with a clean info page layout made for the library to feel new in vertical or horizontal modes. My setup is an ntsc 39k with sata gamestar adapter, 500gb WD Blue Caviar hdd, and a 64gb fat32 usb drive for popstarter.

Thanks Krah Berion and Ripto, I enjoyed it and showed it off already (when it would behave)
 
Berion said:
@akilluminati47 Black variant? Am I not know about something? :)

What do you means by "480i friendly icons"?

You're welcome. Thanks for feedback.
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Im sending you the black version it looks stuff was just deleted from the white one so its kind of empty

And the icons berry man, they appear nicely proportioned in 1080i from the preview here but a CRT in 480i makes the graphics seem close to the coverflow. The vertical list theme looks much better in this area
 
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