PS2 DISCS WITH MULTIMAN- DATA ERROR

[Nozinho]

i know that maybe is cause my discs are scratch, but i cant do a iso from my ps2 discs... always show READ ERROR | RETRYING and dont finish the process. what can i do?
i ve done before some isos with original and no original discs, but now i cant do with none

UPDATE: MULTIMAN IS NOT DETECTING NO ORIGINAL DISCS BUT BEFORE HE WAS ABLE TO DETECT


SOLVED: I HAD A PS3 ISO GAME IN PS3ISO WHO WAS NOT ALLOWING ME TO CREATE PS2 ISO'S. I DONT KNOW IF IS A BUG BUT IS REALLY ANNOYING.

 

[Berion]

The best solution will be finding "regeneration disc" service (polishing surface, making disc thinner but free from scratches) or use PC ODD with good error correction to make disc image. You can try as last resort, doing read in "tower position". Laser in Sony consoles better read discs in such position for some reason (seriously :P).

If disc doesn't have visual damages on read surface, it can be damaged internally by bacteria and mushrooms (which means producing wasn't stick to hermetic standards, sometimes it happens and such CD/DVD/HD-DVD/BD-ROM discs will not surviving more than 10 years (instead to hypothetical 100)).

 

[sandungas]

You can try as last resort, doing read in "tower position". Laser in Sony consoles better read discs in such position for some reason (seriously :P).

True story... just for curiosity sake (i know you are going to like it)... the reason is because gravity

When the console is in horzontal position the laser coils (rolled around the tiny laser lens) needs to move the lens up and down to do the "focus"
The "up" movements needs to fight against gravity, and the "down" movements are easyer because gravity is pushing it down
If we place the console vertically then this movements of the lens happens left and right, and gravity doesnt disturbs them so much

 

[Nozinho]

True story... just for curiosity sake (i know you are going to like it)... the reason is because gravity

When the console is in horzontal position the laser coils (rolled around the tiny laser lens) needs to move the lens up and down to do the "focus"
The "up" movements needs to fight against gravity, and the "down" movements are easyer because gravity is pushing it down
If we place the console vertically then this movements of the lens happens left and right, and gravity doesnt disturbs them so much

Nice point! my ps3 cant read blu-ray discs, i think the laser as gone, but i will try this scientific experience xD

 

[Nozinho]

The best solution will be finding "regeneration disc" service (polishing surface, making disc thinner but free from scratches) or use PC ODD with good error correction to make disc image. You can try as last resort, doing read in "tower position". Laser in Sony consoles better read discs in such position for some reason (seriously :P).

If disc doesn't have visual damages on read surface, it can be damaged internally by bacteria and mushrooms (which means producing wasn't stick to hermetic standards, sometimes it happens and such CD/DVD/HD-DVD/BD-ROM discs will not surviving more than 10 years (instead to hypothetical 100)).

I will try with some discs that my playstations cant read (for a while), but i found the problem. Some iso file on PS3ISO didn't let that my ps3 read any disc to create iso file, after delete him i could do anything i pretend, you know what i mean?

 

[Berion]

Software dumping discs doesn't know about existence, nor understand dumped discs. Are You sure You have enough free space? This would explain why after deleting some of PS3 games, You can dump another. :P

@sandungas I thinking more about distance between disc and lens which can take major factor on wearing lasers (because of different focus beam).

 

[sandungas]

I will try with some discs that my playstations cant read (for a while), but i found the problem. Some iso file on PS3ISO didn't let that my ps3 read any disc to create iso file, after delete him i could do anything i pretend, you know what i mean?

Thats very rare, i never heard of it, to be honest is hard to believe but if is true i guess it could be considered a bug

@sandungas I thinking more about distance between disc and lens which can take major factor on wearing lasers (because of different focus beam).

Well, what i said is a bit like that, the "focus" is made by moving the tiny lens closer or far away from the disc surface. That movement is made with the coil that is just a thin copper wire rolled around the tiny spherical lens

If we place the console vertically, then the disc surface is going to be vertical... and the movements of the lens are going to be "left and right"... so the gravity doesnt makes any difference when moving left or right
But with the console in horizontal the coil needs to made a bigger effort to move "up" than when moving "down"

In a healthy laser this small differences doesnt matters, but when the laser is very weared sometimes this makes the difference in between not being able to load a disc... or to load it

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Im confident this is the cause, the first time i realized about it is because i had a friend that was flipping the PS1 (upside down) to load games, LOL
I had some laughts those days with his loading methods, but yeah... it was working, and it was the kind of thing that i had a proof in my eyes that was true, later he used to do it with the PS2 too, and i have to admit eventually i did it too mostly for repair and diagnosis purposes because you know... is not serious, you are not supposed to use a laser in that state moving the console around to load the disc, lol
It could be an indication that the coil is very old (the coil had lot of overheats and is not "strong" enought to move the lens with precission)

In simple words... by moving the console around, we are helping the laser coil to do his work