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PS3 (Research/Experimental) - NEC/TOKIN Capacitors Replacement - YLOD
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Acid_Snake
Developer
Got myself a 60GB PS3 a few days ago, changed thermal paste since the fan was too loud.
After a day of usage it started shutting down with YLOD after some play time.
Today it didn't even boot, just straight YLOD. Since I already knew about this tutorial I had some replacement caps ready.
I used 6.3V 330uF tantalum capacitors. The console revived and booted at first attempt and still running with no issues.
After a day of usage it started shutting down with YLOD after some play time.
Today it didn't even boot, just straight YLOD. Since I already knew about this tutorial I had some replacement caps ready.
I used 6.3V 330uF tantalum capacitors. The console revived and booted at first attempt and still running with no issues.
Dariush Aghaee
Member
YLOD happens because of several reasons. When you change caps you provide lots of heat around RSX. The heat hides the actual reason of YLOD temporarily and it boots up but will not last long. You are recommended to get a syscon err log to see what cussed the latest YLOD. now that it's working you don't need to solder serial wires to the motherboard.
Check this out; SYSCON tutorial here
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Acid_Snake
Developer
Thanks for the info, but I'm unable to install and run PS3HEN on this console (exploit always fails for whatever reason).
I've heard about the remote play method to install HEN, how does that work? is there a tutorial?
Dariush Aghaee
Member
HEN enables piracy but I have doubts it gets you access to level of reading syscon?
Anyway. As it is mentioned in the article I linked you, DO NOT attempt to jail break it. Just do the direct method.
Good luck.
Hi, last week i replaced all the nec tokin of my ps3 (i cant find my old post's with the details of my problems).
During disassembly of the last one nec tokin, i accidentally hit a very small component that has came off (see attached picture).
I have resoldered it, but i don't know if i have resoldered it in the right direction.
Can you say me what type of component is (resistor, capacitor, inductor or else) and if it have a direction of assembly?
I have cleaned all internal components with air, changed the thermal pad's, thermal paste and reassembled all the components.
Now the ps3 start, after 7 sec of green light flash 4 times ylod for 3 sec, then green light for 11 sec then again ylod for 4 sec and finaly the consol arrive at the xmb.
I played several hour's monitoring also the temperature, and never go over 65°C for CELL e 60°c for RSX (max 37% fan).
I have redumped again the syscon but it is the same before the mod (i think is normal that is tha same until a fatal shutdown).
Can the very small component that i have resoldered make the 2 ylod status during boot-up?
Or is something else?
Thank you everyone.
During disassembly of the last one nec tokin, i accidentally hit a very small component that has came off (see attached picture).
I have resoldered it, but i don't know if i have resoldered it in the right direction.
Can you say me what type of component is (resistor, capacitor, inductor or else) and if it have a direction of assembly?
I have cleaned all internal components with air, changed the thermal pad's, thermal paste and reassembled all the components.
Now the ps3 start, after 7 sec of green light flash 4 times ylod for 3 sec, then green light for 11 sec then again ylod for 4 sec and finaly the consol arrive at the xmb.
I played several hour's monitoring also the temperature, and never go over 65°C for CELL e 60°c for RSX (max 37% fan).
I have redumped again the syscon but it is the same before the mod (i think is normal that is tha same until a fatal shutdown).
Can the very small component that i have resoldered make the 2 ylod status during boot-up?
Or is something else?
Thank you everyone.
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Workz_777
Senior Member
Little MLCCs or resistors like that don't have polarity, so they can be soldered in any way, so that should be fine. But man your PS3 is doing some strange things, i don't think i've ever heard of a PS3 doing what your one does.
Surely you are getting some new Syscon error codes each time your PS3 YLODs like that during start up? What are your Syscon error codes, can you post the log here so we can check.
Here is the syscon log
Firmware Version: 4.84 (build 50696)
Platform ID: CokF10
Product Code: 00 85
Product Sub Code: 00 08
Hardware Config: 4E00FFFF0307BCBF
Syscon Fimware Version: 065D.0000000000000000 (EEPROM: 0000000000000000)
Bringup Count: 2453, Shutdown Count: 2424
Runtime: 122 Days, 3 Hours, 41 Minutes, 47 Seconds
Error Log
01: A0802124 Sun Jan 1 00:00:31 2006
02: A0802124 Sun Jan 1 00:00:31 2006
03: A0801002 Sun Jan 1 00:00:30 2006
04: A0802124 Sun Jan 1 00:00:01 2006
05: A0801002 Sun Jan 1 00:00:00 2006
06: A0802124 Sun Jan 1 19:48:25 2006
07: A0801002 Sun Jan 1 19:48:24 2006
08: A0802124 Sun Jan 1 19:47:44 2006
09: A0802124 Sun Jan 1 19:47:43 2006
10: A0801002 Sun Jan 1 19:47:43 2006
11: A0802124 Sun Jan 1 00:02:44 2006
12: A0802124 Sun Jan 1 00:02:43 2006
13: A0801002 Sun Jan 1 00:02:43 2006
14: A0802124 Sun Jan 1 00:01:11 2006
15: A0802124 Sun Jan 1 00:01:11 2006
16: A0801002 Sun Jan 1 00:01:10 2006
17: A0802124 Sun Jan 1 00:00:23 2006
18: A0801002 Sun Jan 1 00:00:22 2006
19: A0802124 Sun Jan 1 00:00:01 2006
20: A0801002 Sun Jan 1 00:00:00 2006
21: A0802124 Sun Jan 1 01:42:16 2006
22: A0801002 Sun Jan 1 01:42:16 2006
23: A0802022 Sun Jan 1 01:41:52 2006
24: A0802124 Sun Jan 1 01:08:44 2006
25: A0801002 Sun Jan 1 01:08:44 2006
26: A0802022 Sun Jan 1 01:08:16 2006
27: A0802124 Sun Jan 1 00:47:24 2006
28: A0802124 Sun Jan 1 00:47:24 2006
29: A0801002 Sun Jan 1 00:47:23 2006
30: A0802022 Sun Jan 1 00:47:10 2006
31: A0802124 Sun Jan 1 00:42:37 2006
32: FFFFFFFF Fri Dec 31 23:59:59 1999
As you can see from date and time, there is no new errors (i forgot to say that i changed also the battery that was death and set the current time and date).
(PS. sorry for my bad english).
Workz_777
Senior Member
Here are the Syscon Error Codes and what they mean:-
https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Syscon_Error_Codes#Error_code_format
Looks like you need to replace the Tokins on the RSX, you did half of them already (2) on the RSX, yes? Please can you post a photo of your RSX NEC Tokin replacements you did already, so we can see if there are any short circuits.
Maybe you could replace all (4) of the NEC Tokins on the RSX
Your PS3 syscon error codes description:-
1002 (Power RSX)
- Components Involved:
There are numerous SMD components involved in filtering, but the main concern are the NEC/TOKIN Proadlizers (capacitors). 1002 errors are the fingerprint of bad tokins.
- --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- -
2124 (AV)
This error tends to cause a delayed Yellow Light Of Death (10s - 1min). Sometimes described as a Green Light Of Death (GLOD) or Red Light Of Death (RLOD).
2124 and 2024 errors have been fixed by replacing both the AV and HDMI encoders. One user reported 2024/2124 errors resolved by replacing the HDMI encoder. Another removed the HDMI encoder and tested the console without it. That console primarily filled the errorlog with 2124 errors, but a few 2024's as well. So it is unclear if 2124 is specific to the HDMI Encoder or AV Encoder. It seems it could be either.
I have replaced all nec tokin.
Yesterday i tried to play, ps3 turn on and green led stayed stable all time but no signal from hdmi and av output.
Furthermore all the 4 controller red led continue to blink and never stop (like when it tries to connect to ps3).
At this pont i have obtained the syscon with a FT232RL usb adapter and this is the result:
ERR 00: 00000000 A0802124 0B49D81F
ERR 01: 00000000 A0802124 0B49D81F
ERR 02: 00000000 A0801002 0B49D81E
ERR 03: 00000000 A0802124 0B49D801
ERR 04: 00000000 A0801002 0B49D800
ERR 05: 00000000 A0802124 0B4AEE89
ERR 06: 00000000 A0801002 0B4AEE88
ERR 07: 00000000 A0802124 0B4AEE60
ERR 08: 00000000 A0802124 0B4AEE5F
ERR 09: 00000000 A0801002 0B4AEE5F
ERR 10: 00000000 A0802124 0B49D817
ERR 11: 00000000 A0801002 0B49D816
ERR 12: 00000000 A0802124 0B49D801
ERR 13: 00000000 A0801002 0B49D800
ERR 14: 00000000 A0802124 0B49EFF8
ERR 15: 00000000 A0801002 0B49EFF8
ERR 16: 00000000 A0802022 0B49EFE0
ERR 17: 00000000 A0802124 0B49E81C
ERR 18: 00000000 A0801002 0B49E81C
ERR 19: 00000000 A0802022 0B49E800
Yesterday i tried to play, ps3 turn on and green led stayed stable all time but no signal from hdmi and av output.
Furthermore all the 4 controller red led continue to blink and never stop (like when it tries to connect to ps3).
At this pont i have obtained the syscon with a FT232RL usb adapter and this is the result:
ERR 00: 00000000 A0802124 0B49D81F
ERR 01: 00000000 A0802124 0B49D81F
ERR 02: 00000000 A0801002 0B49D81E
ERR 03: 00000000 A0802124 0B49D801
ERR 04: 00000000 A0801002 0B49D800
ERR 05: 00000000 A0802124 0B4AEE89
ERR 06: 00000000 A0801002 0B4AEE88
ERR 07: 00000000 A0802124 0B4AEE60
ERR 08: 00000000 A0802124 0B4AEE5F
ERR 09: 00000000 A0801002 0B4AEE5F
ERR 10: 00000000 A0802124 0B49D817
ERR 11: 00000000 A0801002 0B49D816
ERR 12: 00000000 A0802124 0B49D801
ERR 13: 00000000 A0801002 0B49D800
ERR 14: 00000000 A0802124 0B49EFF8
ERR 15: 00000000 A0801002 0B49EFF8
ERR 16: 00000000 A0802022 0B49EFE0
ERR 17: 00000000 A0802124 0B49E81C
ERR 18: 00000000 A0801002 0B49E81C
ERR 19: 00000000 A0802022 0B49E800
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Workz_777
Senior Member
Thanks for the photos, well from your work it doesn't seem like any short circuits for the Tantalums, but as you can see from your error code 2124 (see below)
- --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- -
2124 (AV)
This error tends to cause a delayed Yellow Light Of Death (10s - 1min). Sometimes described as a Green Light Of Death (GLOD) or Red Light Of Death (RLOD).
2124 (and 2024) errors have been fixed by replacing both the AV and HDMI encoders. One user reported 2024/2124 errors resolved by replacing the HDMI encoder. Another removed the HDMI encoder and tested the console without it. That console primarily filled the errorlog with 2124 errors, but a few 2024's as well. So it is unclear if 2124 is specific to the HDMI Encoder or AV Encoder. It seems it could be either.
- --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- -
And you have confirmed no signal on hdmi or AV output.
Recently i had the same with a PS3, i thought it was GLOD, same as you describe with the DS3 controllers also, but i tried holding down the I/O button to enter video output format reset and it did fix it afterwards, i got video signal on AV cable.
Maybe try that just to see, turn off PS3 - connect just the AV cable (no HDMi cable connected) then turn on PS3 with the front I/O button, keep your finger pressing / holding the button, it should go 1 x beep, then 5 seconds later 2 x beeps - now let go of the I/O and wait a little bit to see if you get anything on screen (it can take some time) so wait a little.
Hi everyone
I'm from Iran and I have a problem
my English is not good
we have YLOD ps3 and show me only error 3003
I solder 16 pieces 470 2,5V (without bridge) and when I turn on the console, I can see the voltage before the tantalum capacitors and when I add bridges between two lines of the positive pad, the voltage disappears and I don't know what is voltage going???
I checked all FUSE, resistor and checked for find short but there is NO short in this board
I don't know what am I doing?
I'm from Iran and I have a problem
my English is not good
we have YLOD ps3 and show me only error 3003
I solder 16 pieces 470 2,5V (without bridge) and when I turn on the console, I can see the voltage before the tantalum capacitors and when I add bridges between two lines of the positive pad, the voltage disappears and I don't know what is voltage going???
I checked all FUSE, resistor and checked for find short but there is NO short in this board
I don't know what am I doing?
I whant to understand where error A0801002 is generated and if it is possible fix it.
How can i test if nec tokin give the right power supply to rsx?
Is obligatory the usage of an oscilloscope or a simple tester is enough?
(PS. i have a little oscilloscope DSO138, maybe it can be ok)
Seeing on ps3devwiki, it says that the error 1002 can be generated also by "Other nearby components of the power block".
On a VER 001 MOBO what are these nearby components?
Thank you again.
How can i test if nec tokin give the right power supply to rsx?
Is obligatory the usage of an oscilloscope or a simple tester is enough?
(PS. i have a little oscilloscope DSO138, maybe it can be ok)
Seeing on ps3devwiki, it says that the error 1002 can be generated also by "Other nearby components of the power block".
On a VER 001 MOBO what are these nearby components?
Thank you again.
RIP-Felix
Senior Member
Could you 2 please do me a favor and come back after 2 weeks and let us know if these consoles are still working? It's important for my statistics. I use reports like this to rule out thermomechanical false positives. The number of actual tokin fixes may be higher, but we cannot confirm that because people do not return to tell us the console kept working and we cannot assume either way, making it difficult to know the real story.
Of course, having the SYSCON errorlogs would be EXTREEMLY helpful. So please post them also, if you can be at all bothered to do so.
Yugonibblit
PSX-Place Supporter
The console in the recent pictures was done a year ago just was dealing with health and finally got to post the pics. As far as syscon error logs I do not have a reader, I would like to ad that I have had no problems with consoles that just need the tokins replaced which I have done quite a few lost count. If the gpu and cpu aren't cooked a simple correct reflow seems to do the trick and those consoles are still working and I haven't heard any complaints from my friends yet
Also I would like to ad that the console in the pics has also been running Evilnats overclocked CFW 4.89.
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RIP-Felix
Senior Member
Then you can use PS3 Advanced Toolset to dump the log. Just download and install the Package. The tool will dump the log directly to the root of your USB.
I explained this in my SYSCON tutorial. I suggest you spend the $3 for a UART adapter if you think you'll ever need to fix a PS3 again. Of course, you have been around long enough to already know this.
Yugonibblit
PSX-Place Supporter
Ok I will get the log homework going..lol, good suggestion on the adapter but it just isn't cost effective for me right now I already have to many consoles for my self . I'm also getting old!... lol I will probably have my DECR 1400 put in my coffin or burned with me...lol. I might just spend the 3 bucks. I'm not rich but I am a ps3 addict. I hope I find a rehab center exquisitely devoted for my ps3 addiction!
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RIP-Felix
Senior Member
@Shawn Shakir has a similar machine and says it works well.
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