Thank you for your reply. Is the 470 micro farad capacitor good for the slim model and how many ohms should it be and how many capacitors should I install to answer the gpu power?
PS3 (Research/Experimental) - NEC/TOKIN Capacitors Replacement - YLOD
- Thread starter Naked_Snake1995
- Start date
Like I said you"ll have to do some research fat motherboard have different NEC's and use upto 4 tantulums rate 470f per tokin along with a 36 gauge jumper top to bottom positive pads if you don't want to use tantalizer board slims use a different rating NEC and would need upto 3 tantalums caps either rated 330uf or 470uf the rating and number of caps are to be compared to that of NEC installed on board later slims use 330uf tantalum's and superslims use 470uf tantulums if you want to source caps of a scrap board but they won't come off without a fight use a good hot air station at 450°c don't bother with soldering iron you"ll rip off a terminal of the cap.
I'm sorry, I still don't understand what you're saying. Of course, I'm talking to you with Google translator, maybe that's why I don't understand what you're saying.
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Smuggus
Forum Noob
Ive got my fathers old ps3, i dont know much about exact details, but im pretty sure it doesnt have custom firmware, but it had an tantalum attempt (no nec/tokin removed, there were only cables on the tokin side conecting to capacitors, but i removed them). After that i cleaned the ps3 and soldered the syscon conectors for troubleshooting.
So yea, pretty sure the problem runs down to the tokin fault. I searched the codes and it seems like its prob a nec/tokin fault, after that i removed the tokin cap, it looked burnt and i tested it with a multimeter, yep, its cooked. Anybody has a recommended capacitor for chancing both OE108 and OE128?
Code:
>$ ERRLOG GET 00
00000000 A0093003 1767DE9B
>$ ERRLOG GET 01
00000000 A0061002 1767DE9B
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 02
00000000 A0093003 1767DE98
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 03
00000000 A0061002 1767DE98
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 04
00000000 A0093003 1767DE8B
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 05
00000000 A0061002 1767DE8B
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 06
00000000 A0093003 1767DA44
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 07
00000000 A0071002 1767DA44
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 08
00000000 A0093003 1767DA3F
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 09
00000000 A0061002 1767DA3F
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 0A
00000000 A0093003 1767D9F5
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 0B
00000000 A0061002 1767D9F5
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 0C
00000000 A0093003 1767D9DD
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 0D
00000000 A0061002 1767D9DD
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 0E
00000000 A0093003 1767D9D8
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 0F
00000000 A0061002 1767D9D8
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 10
00000000 A0093003 1767D9D4
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 11
00000000 A0061002 1767D9D4
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 12
00000000 A0093003 1767D9D0
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 13
00000000 A0071002 1767D9D0
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 14
00000000 A0093003 1767D9C6
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 15
00000000 A0061002 1767D9C6
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 16
00000000 A0093003 1767D734
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 17
00000000 A0061002 1767D733
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 18
00000000 A0093003 1767CF49
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 19
00000000 A0071002 1767CF49
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 1A
00000000 A0093003 1767C6C8
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 1B
00000000 A0071002 1767C6C8
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 1C
00000000 A0093003 1767C6C3
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 1D
00000000 A0071002 1767C6C3
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 1E
00000000 A0093003 1767C6A1
Press Ctrl+C to exit
>$ ERRLOG GET 1F
00000000 FFFFFFFF 1767C6A1
errlog
ofst[ 52]:err_code:0xffffffff, clock:0x1767c6c8 2012/06/10 20:57:44
ofst[ 56]:err_code:0xa0093003, clock:0x1767c6c8 2012/06/10 20:57:44
ofst[ 60]:err_code:0xa0071002, clock:0x1767cf49 2012/06/10 21:34:01
ofst[ 64]:err_code:0xa0093003, clock:0x1767cf49 2012/06/10 21:34:01
ofst[ 68]:err_code:0xa0061002, clock:0x1767d733 2012/06/10 22:07:47
ofst[ 72]:err_code:0xa0093003, clock:0x1767d734 2012/06/10 22:07:48
ofst[ 76]:err_code:0xa0061002, clock:0x1767d9c6 2012/06/10 22:18:46
ofst[ 80]:err_code:0xa0093003, clock:0x1767d9c6 2012/06/10 22:18:46
ofst[ 84]:err_code:0xa0071002, clock:0x1767d9d0 2012/06/10 22:18:56
ofst[ 88]:err_code:0xa0093003, clock:0x1767d9d0 2012/06/10 22:18:56
ofst[ 92]:err_code:0xa0061002, clock:0x1767d9d4 2012/06/10 22:19:00
ofst[ 96]:err_code:0xa0093003, clock:0x1767d9d4 2012/06/10 22:19:00
ofst[100]:err_code:0xa0061002, clock:0x1767d9d8 2012/06/10 22:19:04
ofst[104]:err_code:0xa0093003, clock:0x1767d9d8 2012/06/10 22:19:04
ofst[108]:err_code:0xa0061002, clock:0x1767d9dd 2012/06/10 22:19:09
ofst[112]:err_code:0xa0093003, clock:0x1767d9dd 2012/06/10 22:19:09
ofst[116]:err_code:0xa0061002, clock:0x1767d9f5 2012/06/10 22:19:33
ofst[120]:err_code:0xa0093003, clock:0x1767d9f5 2012/06/10 22:19:33
ofst[124]:err_code:0xa0061002, clock:0x1767da3f 2012/06/10 22:20:47
ofst[ 0]:err_code:0xa0093003, clock:0x1767da3f 2012/06/10 22:20:47
ofst[ 4]:err_code:0xa0071002, clock:0x1767da44 2012/06/10 22:20:52
ofst[ 8]:err_code:0xa0093003, clock:0x1767da44 2012/06/10 22:20:52
ofst[ 12]:err_code:0xa0061002, clock:0x1767de8b 2012/06/10 22:39:07
ofst[ 16]:err_code:0xa0093003, clock:0x1767de8b 2012/06/10 22:39:07
ofst[ 20]:err_code:0xa0061002, clock:0x1767de98 2012/06/10 22:39:20
ofst[ 24]:err_code:0xa0093003, clock:0x1767de98 2012/06/10 22:39:20
ofst[ 28]:err_code:0xa0061002, clock:0x1767de9b 2012/06/10 22:39:23
ofst[ 32]:err_code:0xa0093003, clock:0x1767de9b 2012/06/10 22:39:23
ofst[ 36]:err_code:0xa0071002, clock:0x17690554 2012/06/11 19:36:52
ofst[ 40]:err_code:0xa0093003, clock:0x17690554 2012/06/11 19:36:52
ofst[ 44]:err_code:0xa0071002, clock:0x17690558 2012/06/11 19:36:56
ofst[ 48]:err_code:0xa0093003, clock:0x17690558 2012/06/11 19:36:56
[mullion]$
becount
Bringup : 672 times
Shutdown: 627 times
Power-on: 30day 02hour 32min 51sec
[mullion]$
[SSM] state: 0000 -> 0101
Bringup Mode #0 (0xFF)
[SSM] ssmCb_OnStartingBePowOn() called.
[SSM] Bringup mode : syspm_stat=00000000/00000000
[POWSEQ] PowerSeq_Setup called.
[SSM] fatalreq delayed.
[ERROR]: 0xa0061002
[SSM] state: 0101 -> 0301
[SSM] *** Power Fail RS ***
[SSM] state: 0301 -> 0700
[POWSEQ] AV Backend Letup
[SSM] Shutdown mode : syspm_stat=00000000/00000000
[ERROR]: 0xa0093003
[POWSEQ] PowerSeq_Letup called.
[SSM] state: 0700 -> 0600
(PowerOff State) (Fatal)
[SSM] state: 0600 -> 0000
[SSM] Error state is cleared.
(PowerOff State)
[SSM] state: 0000 -> 0101
Bringup Mode #0 (0xFF)
[SSM] ssmCb_OnStartingBePowOn() called.
[SSM] Bringup mode : syspm_stat=00000000/00000000
[POWSEQ] PowerSeq_Setup called.
[SSM] fatalreq delayed.
[ERROR]: 0xa0071002
[SSM] state: 0101 -> 0301
[SSM] *** Power Fail RS ***
[SSM] state: 0301 -> 0700
[POWSEQ] AV Backend Letup
[SSM] Shutdown mode : syspm_stat=00000000/00000000
[ERROR]: 0xa0093003
[POWSEQ] PowerSeq_Letup called.
[SSM] state: 0700 -> 0600
(PowerOff State) (Fatal)
[mullion]$
RIP-Felix
Senior Member
A general rule is that the voltage rating should be 1.5 times higher than the max circuit voltage. VDDC generally operates at or below 1.3v, so 2v rated caps is the min. But there could be times it spikes or goes higher, so 2.5v might be better. In general 2-2.5v should be fine. 6.3v is plenty higher and should be fine. The purpose of selecting caps with a higher voltage rating is to provide a margin of safety and increase reliability.
RIP-Felix
Senior Member
What model ps3 is it? It's on the barcode at the back (eg, CECHL01).
I reccomend tantalizers. Reccomended values are listed there (links are just an example), but you can shop around for the best cap from there. You don't need the tantalizer PCB BTW, it just makes soldering easier. I reccomend using hot air to install the caps to the tantalizer 1st, then the tantalizer to the MB.
If the point is to get the ESR as low as possible, isnt soldering 6 caps per tokin better than 3 which is the maximum the tantalizers allow?
I bought a YLOD CECHK ps3, I connected to syscon and all 32 error logs show the 3004 error so I tought its probably tokins and got happy but before I attempt to change the tokins I have few questions that trouble me; first is the ps3 I got had been opened before and I saw some flux residue around the rsx so I asume rsx has been reflowed. Could the rsx and the tokins both be bad but the 3034 error code doesnt show up on the logs because the syscon detects core power failure first and shuts ps3 off before it would give the 3034 error, how does the syscon behave in such cases like this? second is my ps3's total power on time is 40 days which seems way too low to cause tokins to go bad, can it be something else like buck converters maybe? third one is regarding the capacitor combination, so if the main goal is to get the esr low as possible wouldnt replacing 1 tokin with 6 caps be better than replacing with 3 caps like felix's tantalizer pcbs do? If I were to solder 6 caps to does it matter whether I get 330uF or 470uF caps, is exceeding the nec tokins total capacitance number okay or does it make any difference at all? And lastly my heat gun has 2 settings, 50c and 400c, if I were to use 400c to remove the tantalums could I cause damage to the board? Thank you for your time.
The Black model i did the cap fix on died again a bit back, syscon errors are 1002 and 1001, is it worth replacing more of the caps, i only did 2 before
Just revived a ylod CECHB00 (all black ps3) by replacing capacitors. Also delidded what are good temps to set as my targets in webman? syscon errors are below. I have another Japanese unit a silver CECHH00 will post the syscon and result of changing the caps tomorrow or later in the week
===================================
ERR 00: 00000000 A0071002 FFFFFFFF
ERR 01: 00000000 A0061002 FFFFFFFF
ERR 02: 00000000 A0071002 FFFFFFFF
ERR 03: 00000000 A0071002 FFFFFFFF
ERR 04: 00000000 A0901001 FFFFFFFF
ERR 05: 00000000 A0061002 FFFFFFFF
ERR 06: 00000000 A0801002 FFFFFFFF
ERR 07: 00000000 A0801002 FFFFFFFF
ERR 08: 00000000 A0101002 FFFFFFFF
ERR 09: 00000000 A0101002 150118F4
ERR 10: 00000000 A0801002 15011884
ERR 11: 00000000 A0611001 15011000
ERR 12: 00000000 A0101001 15010FF4
ERR 13: 00000000 A0611001 15010F7F
ERR 14: 00000000 A0801002 0BD42C4D
ERR 15: 00000000 A0801002 0B6DE036
ERR 16: 00000000 A0801002 0B5CB559
ERR 17: 00000000 A0801002 0B5C60ED
ERR 18: 00000000 A0801002 0B5C60BE
ERR 19: 00000000 A0101001 0B5C60A2
===================================
RIP-Felix
Senior Member
Edit. I assume you first fix the cap polarity? It's been awhile sorry.Just revived a ylod CECHB00 (all black ps3) by replacing capacitors. Also delidded what are good temps to set as my targets in webman? syscon errors are below. I have another Japanese unit a silver CECHH00 will post the syscon and result of changing the caps tomorrow or later in the week
===================================
ERR 00: 00000000 A0071002 FFFFFFFF
ERR 01: 00000000 A0061002 FFFFFFFF
ERR 02: 00000000 A0071002 FFFFFFFF
ERR 03: 00000000 A0071002 FFFFFFFF
ERR 04: 00000000 A0901001 FFFFFFFF
ERR 05: 00000000 A0061002 FFFFFFFF
ERR 06: 00000000 A0801002 FFFFFFFF
ERR 07: 00000000 A0801002 FFFFFFFF
ERR 08: 00000000 A0101002 FFFFFFFF
ERR 09: 00000000 A0101002 150118F4
ERR 10: 00000000 A0801002 15011884
ERR 11: 00000000 A0611001 15011000
ERR 12: 00000000 A0101001 15010FF4
ERR 13: 00000000 A0611001 15010F7F
ERR 14: 00000000 A0801002 0BD42C4D
ERR 15: 00000000 A0801002 0B6DE036
ERR 16: 00000000 A0801002 0B5CB559
ERR 17: 00000000 A0801002 0B5C60ED
ERR 18: 00000000 A0801002 0B5C60BE
ERR 19: 00000000 A0101001 0B5C60A2
===================================
Yeah, it would appear your temoprary band aid has worn out. And now you should replace the rest.
I'm getting unknown errors in SYSCON except one. Could anyone help me by explaining what are these?
===================================
ERR 00: 00000000 A0111B01 0B65CF8D
ERR 01: 00000000 A0111B01 0B65CF8A
ERR 02: 00000000 A0111B01 0B65CF0C
ERR 03: 00000000 A0111B01 0B65C307
ERR 04: 00000000 A0111B01 0B65C2FB
ERR 05: 00000000 A0111B01 0B65C2F3
ERR 06: 00000000 A0203010 0B658592
ERR 07: 00000000 A0203010 0B65858E
ERR 08: 00000000 A0203010 0B648459
ERR 09: 00000000 A0203010 0B6352EC
ERR 10: 00000000 A0111B01 0B631F60
ERR 11: 00000000 A0111B01 0B631F55
ERR 12: 00000000 A0111B01 0B631F51
ERR 13: 00000000 A0111B01 0B631F41
ERR 14: 00000000 A0111B01 0B631F2C
ERR 15: 00000000 A0111B01 0B631F1C
ERR 16: 00000000 A0111B01 0B631EA6
ERR 17: 00000000 A0111B01 0B631E95
ERR 18: 00000000 A0111B01 0B631E82
ERR 19: 00000000 A0313032 0B6311E6
===================================
===================================
ERR 00: 00000000 A0111B01 0B65CF8D
ERR 01: 00000000 A0111B01 0B65CF8A
ERR 02: 00000000 A0111B01 0B65CF0C
ERR 03: 00000000 A0111B01 0B65C307
ERR 04: 00000000 A0111B01 0B65C2FB
ERR 05: 00000000 A0111B01 0B65C2F3
ERR 06: 00000000 A0203010 0B658592
ERR 07: 00000000 A0203010 0B65858E
ERR 08: 00000000 A0203010 0B648459
ERR 09: 00000000 A0203010 0B6352EC
ERR 10: 00000000 A0111B01 0B631F60
ERR 11: 00000000 A0111B01 0B631F55
ERR 12: 00000000 A0111B01 0B631F51
ERR 13: 00000000 A0111B01 0B631F41
ERR 14: 00000000 A0111B01 0B631F2C
ERR 15: 00000000 A0111B01 0B631F1C
ERR 16: 00000000 A0111B01 0B631EA6
ERR 17: 00000000 A0111B01 0B631E95
ERR 18: 00000000 A0111B01 0B631E82
ERR 19: 00000000 A0313032 0B6311E6
===================================
I do not remember if i fixed the polarity lmao, ill order a set of your cap things and replace the lot, how many does oshpark send is it 1 board per oshpark quantity number?
Also which capacitors are good do you have links for some both the 470 and the smaller ones?
RIP-Felix
Senior Member
Yes. The Remote sense line on the CPU thermal monitor cannot read the thermal diode inside the die. Replace the thermal moitor and check the resistors/cap.
If that doesn't do it, then the CPU needs reballed. And if that doesnt work, then the thermal diode inside it is dead and the CELL is gone.
Well it's worth connecting a external thermal diode if he has thermal output which can be checked with oscilloscope
MDashK
Member
Second time fixing a fat PS3.
First one was lucky, just had to replace the 1st NEC and it came back to life. Lasting until now, so far so good.
Second one, acquired it giving YLoD after 40 seconds (!!!)
CECHL04 VER-0001
Proceeded to replace the NECs:
https://i.imgur.com/cmMDqLD.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Rej2rF0.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Rle6NWh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/K7EQlVE.jpg
(not the best soldering skills or best job, still a n00b at this...)
Replaced all but 1 NEC so far, no luck.
Still YLoD after 40 seconds.
What baffles me is the 40 second delay! That's a lot!
And during those 40 seconds, no image, no HDD movement, nothing... Just stays there, green led, fan dynamically spinning...
Any guesses?
@Naked_Snake1995 @RIP-Felix
Waiting for the FT232RL and DuPont cables to arrive in the mail.
First one was lucky, just had to replace the 1st NEC and it came back to life. Lasting until now, so far so good.
Second one, acquired it giving YLoD after 40 seconds (!!!)
CECHL04 VER-0001
Proceeded to replace the NECs:
https://i.imgur.com/cmMDqLD.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Rej2rF0.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Rle6NWh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/K7EQlVE.jpg
(not the best soldering skills or best job, still a n00b at this...)
Replaced all but 1 NEC so far, no luck.
Still YLoD after 40 seconds.
What baffles me is the 40 second delay! That's a lot!
And during those 40 seconds, no image, no HDD movement, nothing... Just stays there, green led, fan dynamically spinning...
Any guesses?
@Naked_Snake1995 @RIP-Felix
Waiting for the FT232RL and DuPont cables to arrive in the mail.
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MDashK
Member
I was finally able to access the syscon information on the console.
Unfortunatelly, I'm getting error 14FF (Check Stop).
A06114FF
That, and I get "XDR link not initialized" when I try to "bringup" and then "shutdown" the console.
After that, the syscon stops responding and I have to re-auth in.
I've checked, double checked and triple checked the board visually and everything seems to be OK, no missing or damaged components.
I assume the NEC replacements I made are OK, since the errors and behaviour does not seem to be correlated to the NECs.
bennieboy777
Member
CECH-2001A
System was given to me cheap, but it is in remarkably good shape. Its blue ray drive didn't work when I bought it, but the rest of the system did. I was able to install cfw, so the temps were well controlled. It was about a month after purchase when it ylod for the first time.
The ylod happens a few seconds after pressing the button. If I keep recycling the power, it eventually heats up a little bit and starts. It will stay on the menu for a long time at this point. Below is a picture of my sys con errors:
Pic wouldn't attach for some reason: but it's a consecutive list of 11 A0801002 errors, one A08014FF, and 11 more A0801002.
I've decided to order some replacements for the nec/tokins, because it only throws the 1002 error. I'm just curious how the system is able to boot after recycling the ylod?
Any help would be greatly appreciated! Otherwise, I will report back with success or failure after replacing one or more nec/tokins
System was given to me cheap, but it is in remarkably good shape. Its blue ray drive didn't work when I bought it, but the rest of the system did. I was able to install cfw, so the temps were well controlled. It was about a month after purchase when it ylod for the first time.
The ylod happens a few seconds after pressing the button. If I keep recycling the power, it eventually heats up a little bit and starts. It will stay on the menu for a long time at this point. Below is a picture of my sys con errors:
Pic wouldn't attach for some reason: but it's a consecutive list of 11 A0801002 errors, one A08014FF, and 11 more A0801002.
I've decided to order some replacements for the nec/tokins, because it only throws the 1002 error. I'm just curious how the system is able to boot after recycling the ylod?
Any help would be greatly appreciated! Otherwise, I will report back with success or failure after replacing one or more nec/tokins
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