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Official PS3 Toolset is now supporting 4.92 Firmware
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PS3 BRICK WARNING - UNOFFICIAL PlayStation 3 Toolset MOD for 4.82-4.89 by P-Px Team is a FRAUD
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DragonWario
Forum Noob
Hi, I'm new to the forum and semi-recently got my hands on a CECHA01 unit. I updated it to 4.89 due to hearing that that it didn't matter what firmware you had on it since all FW's were hackable over on reddit. That was my mistake, since now I know it is impossible to install CFW on it at this time safely. I know HEN exists but I'd rather just wait it out until the toolset is back online, or it's confirmed it's not coming back.
I do have one question on this though, and that is It seems as though much of the imposter site drama could have been avoided had the official tool been officially released for local hosting (if I understand this right). Is there a particular reason why that was not considered or was that just overlooked?
I know these things aren't easy to develop and I don't think we "deserve" to be able to use them, but I do think it may be worth a second look at such a possibility to mitigate any future drama on this. In any case, I do want to say a quick thank you to all those who worked on these tools, without that work the PS3 would be in a much different place, so thanks
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I do have one question on this though, and that is It seems as though much of the imposter site drama could have been avoided had the official tool been officially released for local hosting (if I understand this right). Is there a particular reason why that was not considered or was that just overlooked?
I know these things aren't easy to develop and I don't think we "deserve" to be able to use them, but I do think it may be worth a second look at such a possibility to mitigate any future drama on this. In any case, I do want to say a quick thank you to all those who worked on these tools, without that work the PS3 would be in a much different place, so thanks
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STLcardsWS
Administrator
If you wait then PS3HEN is even more reason to use.
!.) would not work as it should locally hosted if i recall correctly. but bguerville would have to confirm, he has mentioned something here in the forums somewhere.
2.) Its closed source so not a way to do that i would not think (maybe i am no dev). However bguerville has mentioned he does intend to make it open but code needs cleaned he has to remove the security he had before for obstruction. so that takes time and is not a snap of a finger. Its on his time schedule not anyone else (as it fully his work) Also really is a choice only for him and everyone must respect his work and choice or honestly stop using his work or asking for it or demanding things of it
Edit: here from post #2 in this thread, bguerville mentions about a source code release in the future: https://www.psx-place.com/threads/p...els-most-slim-models.16876/page-3#post-338875
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Deserve , you don't deserve shit....... None of us do...I know these things aren't easy to develop and I don't think we "deserve" to be able to use them, but I do think it may be worth a second look at such a possibility to mitigate any future drama on this. In any case, I do want to say a quick thank you to all those who worked on these tools, without that work the PS3 would be in a much different place, so thanks
Get that out of your head...
Be appreciative of what you have that you did not contribute too ...
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DragonWario
Forum Noob
I gotcha. Thanks for posting this notice and for the reply.
Regarding HEN, if I were to use it would it be a lot of time to take it off if/when CFW is available again? Or is that a relatively simple thing?
Regarding HEN, if I were to use it would it be a lot of time to take it off if/when CFW is available again? Or is that a relatively simple thing?
STLcardsWS
Administrator
Just trying to get the proper info out there, we have the biggest voices here but so many small voices everywhere giving really bad advice, we are just trying to correct the info. We have the best sources the people who make the stuff, not the people stealing the stuff.
Reboot you console and install CFW
PS3HEN is applied on every boot and cleared when powered off
Don't use a clone/impostor website and risk bricking your console, especially if it's a CECHA01 -Hi, I'm new to the forum and semi-recently got my hands on a CECHA01 unit. I updated it to 4.89 due to hearing that that it didn't matter what firmware you had on it since all FW's were hackable over on reddit. That was my mistake, since now I know it is impossible to install CFW on it at this time safely. I know HEN exists but I'd rather just wait it out until the toolset is back online, or it's confirmed it's not coming back.
I do have one question on this though, and that is It seems as though much of the imposter site drama could have been avoided had the official tool been officially released for local hosting (if I understand this right). Is there a particular reason why that was not considered or was that just overlooked?
I know these things aren't easy to develop and I don't think we "deserve" to be able to use them, but I do think it may be worth a second look at such a possibility to mitigate any future drama on this. In any case, I do want to say a quick thank you to all those who worked on these tools, without that work the PS3 would be in a much different place, so thanks
1. The fully BC models CECHA/B aren't that common these days and are worth a lot more than non-BC consoles. I can understand people who decide to risk a console they got 2nd hand for less than $100. Can't say I recommend it but I can understand that some people would not shed too many tears if they brick a cheap PS3. A CECHA01 however is worth much more and definitely not something you should risk.
2. BC models are all NAND based, which means that they're more likely to get bricked by clone websites (it's unlikely they bothered testing their clone on NAND at all to begin with) and from what I understand recovering from bricks using a hardware flasher is more difficult with a NAND console since it doesn't support E3 flasher.
Thibobo
Member
Instead of using the pirated mirrors i asked @esc0rtd3w on github to update the original flash dumper and writer to support HW 4.89 which are opensource and support up to HFW 4.85 at this moment this would be a safer method and self hostable method which completely removes the need of a hardware flasher or internet access ( well atleast if you already downloaded it 
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Perfect in times when the BGtoolset is down!
)Perfect in times when the BGtoolset is down!
STLcardsWS
Administrator
Instead of using the pirated mirrors i asked @esc0rtd3w on github to update the original flash dumper and writer to support HW 4.89 which are opensource and support up to HFW 4.85 at this moment this would be a safer method and self hostable method which completely removes the need of a hardware flasher or internet access ( well atleast if you already downloaded it
Perfect in times when the BGtoolset is down!
Linked in 2nd post in this thread:
https://www.psx-place.com/threads/p...els-most-slim-models.16876/page-3#post-338781
bguerville has answered many of these but also warned of some issue's
We do not want anyone doing the Flash Writer, that is why methods that have appeared i have applied many warnings on it.
via bguerville said:
If @esc0rtd3w had the time he would of already did it by now, If he did not believe the real toolset was coming he would of done it already,
If he did not feel PS3HEN is enough of an alternative until things go back he would of done already.
There would be no reason for them to bring it back officially if they know the real toolset is coming back, That would be a waste. So you should take those as positive signs we wont see it officially but we have to be careful about any random person doing it. as bguerville points out
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@lmn7 already updated it for 4.89. there is a homebrew app by @kostirez1. both need testers with a hardware flasher.
Coro any way you could give me a link to purchase a compatible flasher (eBay/Ali/Amazon)?
RIP-Felix
Senior Member
I reccomend a Flashcat USB Xport and a TSOP48 (NAND) adapter, which works well. You still need to physically remove the both NAND banks though! A teensy can also be used, though it takes longer to read. I recently upgraded to a Mach1 which reads/writes faster than either the teensy or xport. Reads the NAND in about 30s (as opposed to the Xport's 5 minutes or the teensy's 15). Writes are about 16mins. Xport writes about the same, maybe around 20mins, but teensy is around 30mins. Teensy is slow, but much cheaper.
MrMario2011
PSX-Place Supporter
The word you're getting out there is respectable @STLcardsWS, appreciate what you do. Unfortunately there will be many who will dig their feet in further and justify clone use of the Toolset, claiming it's safe because it worked for them.
Some people will be receptive, such as the person who originally mirrored it on GitHub taking it down, others will be less than respectable about it. It's a lot of "well it worked fine for me" that I'm seeing, but of course that's not an accurate measure of safety.
Different scene, but I've seen about the same in regards to RGH3 for the Xbox 360. You have the developers and testers stating it's unstable on Phat consoles, could be problematic, not recommended, etc. These are the people who know RGH3 in and out and THOROUGHLY tested it, so their word is good. However on the opposite end there's many people who doubt the devs there, saying it isn't unstable for Phat units and is perfectly fine because "I did it on 5 systems and it worked perfectly"
It transcends consoles, generations, and scenes it seems [emoji28]
Some people will be receptive, such as the person who originally mirrored it on GitHub taking it down, others will be less than respectable about it. It's a lot of "well it worked fine for me" that I'm seeing, but of course that's not an accurate measure of safety.
Different scene, but I've seen about the same in regards to RGH3 for the Xbox 360. You have the developers and testers stating it's unstable on Phat consoles, could be problematic, not recommended, etc. These are the people who know RGH3 in and out and THOROUGHLY tested it, so their word is good. However on the opposite end there's many people who doubt the devs there, saying it isn't unstable for Phat units and is perfectly fine because "I did it on 5 systems and it worked perfectly"
It transcends consoles, generations, and scenes it seems [emoji28]
It's like playing Russian Roulette: because someone pulled the trigger and survived, doesn't mean that it is safe to play. Same analogy applies here (Russians + tool that can kill your console).
It has been told many times: the clone only considers the "happy path". Bguerville knows more than anyone what is missing and he alerted that the clone is dangerous. Indeed the Russian impostors removed from README.md the following warnings included by the original dumper (stealer) of bgtoolset.
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STLcardsWS
Administrator
I am not here to be all mighty protector, what i am here to do is provide accurate details .People can make their own choice, It's just way to many are providing false information on YouTube and other place's. ..So, well i had to get the word out before @Evilnat 's release. It has been fooling noobs and even some scene vet's from other parts of the scene.
Truth of the matter, we were trying to line up and it looked like it would of worked where we would have the PS3 Toolset come back first and this CFW drop right after that. That was the plan to really render those other ones useless and put a nail in the coffin but spamhaus issue have prevented that on the ps3xploit domains, they were trending at the same rate around the holidays. but timeline did not work out thanks to these recent issue's
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Micronut99
Member
"A mirror is like when you look into a mirror and see the same thing? Means its a copy. "
A copy that does not correctly reflect important internal aspects of the original.
All of this is truth.
Don't use this broken copy of the bgtoolset.
Wait or find another way.
Not all PS3's require bgtool's for PS3 CFW.
And I remember when you came onto the scene STLcardsWS.
I've been here before the breaking of the dawn with 3.41 and the void, lol.
As an early contributor to scene just know that all this is said in Love.
Love for the good people involved and love for the PS3.
Sounds sappy but the PS3 scene is the most acidic.
Historically it is the definition of toxic "scenes."
So please listen, don't be evil and enjoy sunshine.
STLcardsWS
Administrator
I am not evil. I am quite the opposite..
Actually not really many longtime developers have been working with each other for a long time
We have many long standing great members, PS3 Scene been a big group that keeps evolving and growing.
Been lots and lots of great progress lately and always has.
i get loud when i need to make a point, I make it known when needed. I have that kind of reach but its not because of me, because the trust developer have gave me and the support they have gave me. That why my voice is heard and i respected that and that is why when i am loud its for developer and user the of the community not people who feel they are smarter then the ones who create the stuff.
Mello_1993
Member
It's unbelievable how people don't believe the words of top developers and people who have been in the PS3 scene for years, to believe a stranger. The NAND/NOR flash patching procedure should be taken seriously, people should think that if there is a problem, formatting the HDD will solve all the problems, and they may find out the hard way that it doesn't.
You all do amazing work, a reliable source of information and learning.
You all do amazing work, a reliable source of information and learning.
What a bag of shitpiece retarded morons.
One of the Scene's most inert goals is to SAFE HARDWARE from trash!
Them acting against that principle makes them Anti-Scener & wannabe Hacker script kiddies and no more.
Now directed at the idiot/those idiots:
If you read that, POS: YOU ARE A MORON and Fucks like you have been stomped back into their mothers uterus decades before you were born and this will always be the case.
Go F%$# off! The Scene doesn't need you, or JeshuaChrist, or "The pod of Greed" and other TOTAL MORONS, who want to FRAME themselves as "Hackers", yet don't even know ultra simple stuff...
YOU REMOVE CREDITS??? PLEASE jump off a cliff!!!
You remove THE VERY ESSENCE of what spawns interest for REAL Hackers and Developers, to create those tools FOR OTHERS in the first place???
HOW moronic can one be?
You are not a Hacker! Heck... You are barely even on the level of a script-kid!
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Micronut99
Member
omg I didn't say that to you... I said this to anyone who doubts the sincerity of those who care.
for many good reasons you should get loud and I got your back. That's all.
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